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Chris Jones will get paid by the Chiefs 207 70.17%
Chris Jones will get traded by the Chiefs 88 29.83%
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Old 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM  
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The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition
Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.
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Old 08-12-2023, 07:39 AM   #1396
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Old 08-12-2023, 07:43 AM   #1397
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Old 08-12-2023, 07:47 AM   #1398
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Old 08-12-2023, 07:48 AM   #1399
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True. Someone will pay, but we traded Tyreek to keep people like Jones.

At some point. I don't know when it will be, but at some point Mahomes will see what he's sacrificing and seeing all the big names go bye bye and shit's gonna go down.

Can't watch every big name outside of the two sacrificing (Kelce/Mahomes) walk and expect to keep the same level of "this is fine".
The cap is maxed out right now. You talk like we have millions in space. We have paid guys all over the roster and it adds up. Mahomes and Kelce see that. If we hadn't it wouldn't be maxed out.
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I get people want to get paid but man, if it's $27m a year not 30 but it's a winning team, I'd take that deal. He's going to a team with money, which is also probably a team that's a$$.
I'd also argue that if 2 or 3 million a year is the difference between having a Chris Jones or not you paye d'yat mahn hee's mahn-ee.

You've asked Jones to continue to improve, be a leader, and step up his play in the post season. He did. All of it. He's playing the best ball of his career at a position that gives your defense a HUGE advantage.

Mahomes and Jones are the only two players on this team I'd argue you need to pay. If they ask it - pay it. Jones is not asking to equal or top Donald. You've got Mahomes and Kelcee below market value and have the ability to get Jones below market value.

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I'd also argue that if 2 or 3 million a year is the difference between having a Chris Jones or not you paye d'yat mahn hee's mahn-ee.

You've asked Jones to continue to improve, be a leader, and step up his play in the post season. He did. All of it. He's playing the best ball of his career at a position that gives your defense a HUGE advantage.

Mahomes and Jones are the only two players on this team I'd argue you need to pay. If they ask it - pay it. Jones is not asking to equal or top Donald. You've got Mahomes and Kelcee below market value and have the ability to get Jones below market value.

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It has to be quite a bit more than 2-3 mil a year to be in the current situation.
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I do think that you need Chris Jones.

My DL philosophy, however, is similar to my WR philosophy. I think having 5-7 B+ to C+ players is just as good as having 1 A+++ player.

Chiefs proved that last year at WR, although they have a literal cheat code at QB. No such advantage exists for the DL.

Chris Jones is an A+++ talent, but I think it would be better to have 5-7 B-level players. That's harder to assemble than just having a stud, but I think it puts more pressure on offenses, because otherwise you're just banking on Jones being Superman every week and if he doesn't, you're cooked.

The problem at this point, and why this all should have been settled back in March, is that the Chiefs, right now, simply don't have 5-7 B-level players. Their current starting tackles are Derrick Nnadi and Daniel Wise. That is absolutely brutal. The DE position has a ton of potential and I love the talent there, but it's going to take a season to develop.

So now the Chiefs find themselves trapped. The Hill contract negotiations were instructive: let Hill go and maybe take a step back for a season (lol didn't happen), or pay him his ask, and you take a step back for several seasons.

The difference is that Hill was traded in the Spring. We're one day out from preseason at this point and the Chiefs have no options.
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It has to be quite a bit more than 2-3 mil a year to be in the current situation.
ESPN reporter, a legit one, said the Chiefs offered $30 million/4 years. No out in the final year. Veach paying a 34 year old DT $30 million is going above and beyond.

We are maxed out on the cap. We spent the extra money that Mahomes and Kelce gave up. If the numbers above are true, they have no reason to be pissed off at the Chiefs.
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It has to be quite a bit more than 2-3 mil a year to be in the current situation.
It might just be the guaranteed money. I don't know.

I am glad Jones is putting out vague tweets instead of spilling his guts and creating an ugly situation like many do.
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ESPN reporter, a legit one, said the Chiefs offered $30 million/4 years. No out in the final year. Veach paying a 34 year old DT $30 million is going above and beyond.

We are maxed out on the cap. We spent the extra money that Mahomes and Kelce gave up. If the numbers above are true, they have no reason to be pissed off at the Chiefs.
Did the ESPN reporter have a name? Did you receive this via a DM?
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Saw it on TV live.
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I do think that you need Chris Jones.

My DL philosophy, however, is similar to my WR philosophy. I think having 5-7 B+ to C+ players is just as good as having 1 A+++ player.

Chiefs proved that last year at WR, although they have a literal cheat code at QB. No such advantage exists for the DL.

Chris Jones is an A+++ talent, but I think it would be better to have 5-7 B-level players. That's harder to assemble than just having a stud, but I think it puts more pressure on offenses, because otherwise you're just banking on Jones being Superman every week and if he doesn't, you're cooked.

The problem at this point, and why this all should have been settled back in March, is that the Chiefs, right now, simply don't have 5-7 B-level players. Their current starting tackles are Derrick Nnadi and Daniel Wise. That is absolutely brutal. The DE position has a ton of potential and I love the talent there, but it's going to take a season to develop.

So now the Chiefs find themselves trapped. The Hill contract negotiations were instructive: let Hill go and maybe take a step back for a season (lol didn't happen), or pay him his ask, and you take a step back for several seasons.

The difference is that Hill was traded in the Spring. We're one day out from preseason at this point and the Chiefs have no options.
You can get away with B+ to C+ talent on offense when your QB is A+++++ and your HC is A+++++. Who fits that bill on the defense?
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Saw it on TV live.
Okay. You’d think someone with a scoop that big would take it to social media. If it’s true then yeah, Chris Jones is out of his mind and there’s no point in further negotiations.
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