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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 04-28-2023, 10:29 AM   #3556
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Can't we just do what the Ravens did with OBJ? I read somewhere his cap hit is just over $1m.
Dude, go look at his cap hit in 2024 when he isn't on their team. It's $11 million.
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Old 04-28-2023, 10:33 AM   #3557
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They can deem it a post june 1 now I think.

It's the money. No one has the cap for it, if they were gonna trade him it needed to be a while ago.
Never know. It’s a wild offseason. Keep in mind rodgers was only traded last week and Lamar only signed this week. There are some mega contracts coming soon. Teams like the ravens and chargers may have to adapt to fit their new qb contracts in, they’ll let players go, other teams will scoop those guys up and their guys will move. And guys like Chris jones open up tons of leverage to create cap space.

Maybe the cards also don’t mind getting next years draft picks. Everything out of that org seems to suggest they don’t really like Kyler and they want to move on as soon as they can. If that’s the case next years picks aren’t a bad play
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Old 04-28-2023, 10:33 AM   #3558
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Can't we just do what the Ravens did with OBJ? I read somewhere his cap hit is just over $1m.
We can easily afford him. We’re just choosing not to for now which I get.
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Old 04-28-2023, 10:38 AM   #3559
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We can easily afford him. We’re just choosing not to for now which I get.
Explain how we're easily affording him this year. Next year...sure.
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Old 04-28-2023, 10:42 AM   #3560
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Old 04-28-2023, 11:52 AM   #3561
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Old 04-28-2023, 12:07 PM   #3562
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Explain how we're easily affording him this year. Next year...sure.
Chris jones extension is the most logical. In this case we’re not doing any magic tricks. First year in the extension is always going to move salary to bonus.

If not, mahomes only took a partial restructure this year. He would gladly move the rest of it to bonus. It backloads mahomes contract but not very much. We can do that with any large contract really but this is the one that’s easiest.

You don’t want to get drunk doing this. But it’s plenty doable if you use it sparingly
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Old 04-28-2023, 12:33 PM   #3563
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Chris jones extension is the most logical. In this case we’re not doing any magic tricks. First year in the extension is always going to move salary to bonus.

If not, mahomes only took a partial restructure this year. He would gladly move the rest of it to bonus. It backloads mahomes contract but not very much. We can do that with any large contract really but this is the one that’s easiest.

You don’t want to get drunk doing this. But it’s plenty doable if you use it sparingly
I could be wrong but I don't think you can touch Mahomes' contract more than once. They already restructured it and that ship has sailed. Their only option is a Jones' extension but I don't forsee that magically falling into place during the draft.
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Old 04-28-2023, 01:18 PM   #3564
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Old 04-28-2023, 01:29 PM   #3565
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Provided they haven’t already use them up, they can designate Hopkins at June 1 now. That’s probably not the holdup.
YEs and thats probably why we heard that the Cards could just release him.

Problem is you can only use that early June 1st as a CUT not as a trade. So if they want to hold out for any kind of return they can just hold off until after June 1st, trade him for whatever and make out better than just cutting him now.

Trading him after June 1st is actually much better for them vs trading him now. Thats probably why they could still be asking for more in return.
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Old 04-28-2023, 01:42 PM   #3566
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This idea is likely dead. It will be even more so if they draft a WR tonight.
At some point, you have to grow your own, not pay market price for other teams ' stars. It's not comfortable, but it's necessary, and is where KC is at right now.
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At some point, you have to grow your own, not pay market price for other teams ' stars. It's not comfortable, but it's necessary, and is where KC is at right now.
Well maybe we want to pay Gay and Bolton.......
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Old 04-28-2023, 03:17 PM   #3568
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At some point, you have to grow your own, not pay market price for other teams ' stars. It's not comfortable, but it's necessary, and is where KC is at right now.
Growing your own is fine - but the entire WR room at once while a SB window is open?

Right now you're looking at Toney - assuming he can stay healthy - and a WHOLE LOT of question marks.

Or, if you want to be a pessimist, you can assume Toney won't be able to stay healthy (he hasn't once in his career) and you have NOTHING but question marks.

They need some sort of a presence besides Kelce - MVS ain't it.
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Growing your own is fine - but the entire WR room at once while a SB window is open?

Right now you're looking at Toney - assuming he can stay healthy - and a WHOLE LOT of question marks.

Or, if you want to be a pessimist, you can assume Toney won't be able to stay healthy (he hasn't once in his career) and you have NOTHING but question marks.

They need some sort of a presence besides Kelce - MVS ain't it.
Seth said it best.

The ceiling is crazy high...but that floor. Woof. That floor is pretty ****ing low.
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Old 04-28-2023, 03:29 PM   #3570
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