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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 04-27-2023, 11:23 AM   #3466
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Old 04-27-2023, 11:28 AM   #3467
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Think I found it.

Peterson - was 26 in 2011 when he tore his ACL and was 27 when he had the 2097 yd season. He had another injury at 29 and his last legit great season was at age 30.

Owens - a broken fibula isn't what I'd call concerning. Considering he played on it. Cold Beasley played the playoffs with a broken fibula. Plus that's only 1 injury and it wasn't even severe enough to be detrimental to his play.

Boldin - I'll give you this one, but I wouldn't give up a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th and pay him $16 mil a year for his production after the his injury. I'd give up a 5th and be willing to pay $10 mil/yr for Hopkins, but that's not happening.

Jerry Rice - No one is Jerry. Dudes a unicorn and would do things no one could ever dream of at the position.

I'm pretty sure I brought up Jerry Rice in the initial post, but he doesn't count because he's Jerry ****ing Rice. Boldin fits I guess but it's not like he was putting up elite or even great numbers. He wouldn't be worth what it will take for Hopkins.
Um, hello? AP also ran for over 1,000 yards at age 33, and nearly another thousand the next year at 34. And let's not forget that RBs take a ton more punishment than just about any other player, so what he did was remarkable.

Lol, TO being disrespected even now. And how would you know how bad an injury a broken fibula is?

Who cares what you would take for Boldin? I don't think we're in any danger of you being GM anytime soon.

Jerry Rice was a unicorn, but he was human at the end of the day. He was seriously injured after 30, then reinjured that knee within a year. And still posted multiple 1,000 yard season afterwards. Since we can agree that he was an actual human being, he counts as rebuttal for this argument.

So yet again, we've satisfied the parameters of your argument. You said that you couldn't think of anyone that had a serious injury after 29 that went on to have success, I provided several.

Please refrain from bringing this up again, and thank you.
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Old 04-27-2023, 11:35 AM   #3468
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Travis Kelce has minor surgeries that haven't been detrimental to his play. Players have surgeries all the time. Travis Kelce hasn't had season ending injuries since his rookie season.
10 surgeries and he's 34. Shouldn't we be cutting him loose at his advanced age? He's well past his prime at this point, right?
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Old 04-27-2023, 11:44 AM   #3470
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Arizona is not competing for a SB this year, so in some ways this is a wasted year for them. Eat Hopkins contract this year and get what you can in picks for him. It's better than holding on to him, still paying his salary, getting no picks for him to rebuild with and watching him leave after the 2024 season. If I am rebuilding I see no reason to keep him and I would want to do what I can to start that rebuild.
eh, I'm just going by what I've been hearing here in phx. Allegedly ARI wants to clear cap space. But your hypothesis seems logical as well.
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Pac-Man Jones said the Bills and Chiefs were making a run on dhop. Apparently Darius Slay said the Ravens were also trying.
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Buck the Fills on this one. Anyone but them. Diggs/Hopkins would arguably be one of the top three WR tandems in the league, if not the best.
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I don't see how the Chiefs can afford Hopkins. The cap hit for the Chiefs would be $19MM in 2023.

DeAndre Hopkins Cap Hit
Hopkins will carry a cap hit of $30,750,000 in 2023 and $26,215,000 in 2024. Additionally, he has a dead cap hit of $22,600,000 in 2023 and $11,300,000 in 2024.

It was reported this offseason that Hopkins’ suspension in 2022 voided the no-trade clause in his contract.

If traded, his cap hits for his new team would be $19.45 million in 2023 and $14.915 million in 2024.

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