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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 04-26-2023, 12:50 PM   #3346
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I believe it.

You can look back at the OBJ trade (THAT I CORRECTLY CALLED, FOR ALL YOU TRYING TO BRING RECEIPTS TODAY) as an example of this type of mindset.

Weak WR class. Best player available to the Chiefs is Dhop. Chiefs are fine with short term rentals.
Guess we're going to figure out how Veach works the cap then because I'm at a loss...and that's even with a Chris Jones extension.
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Old 04-26-2023, 12:53 PM   #3347
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Imagine if all of that Flowers/Johnson workout shit was a smokescreen to pressure Arizona. ****ing masterclass.
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Old 04-26-2023, 12:55 PM   #3348
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Guess we're going to figure out how Veach works the cap then because I'm at a loss...and that's even with a Chris Jones extension.
The Cardinals will have to eat some of his base to facilitate a trade.

Because he was suspended in 2022 for 6 games, you can take more of his base and convert it into incentives he can reach but wouldn't be considered likely to be earned which pushes the cap charge into 2024.

You can also drain it further by rolling more of his base into a bonus and spread it out into extra void years.

They can make it happen.
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Old 04-26-2023, 12:55 PM   #3349
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Guess we're going to figure out how Veach works the cap then because I'm at a loss...and that's even with a Chris Jones extension.
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Old 04-26-2023, 12:56 PM   #3350
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Any of you cap experts know if there is an actual limit in how much the Cards can eat/pay off of Hopkin contract if they wanted to?

Others have said it as well BUT if Cards agreed to pay a good chunk of Hopkins contract so Veach will send a higher pick I think they is a WIN WIN. Just have no idea on what the rules are for such a thing?

Could the Cards even give him an extension and then eat a crap ton of the money to trade him to KC for pennies on the dollar? Why would they I know BUT just asking what are the NFL rules on something like this happening?
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The Cardinals will have to eat some of his base to facilitate a trade.

Because he was suspended in 2022 for 6 games, you can take more of his base and convert it into incentives he can reach but wouldn't be considered likely to be earned which pushes the cap charge into 2024.

You can also drain it further by rolling more of his base into a bonus and spread it out into extra void years.

They can make it happen.
We have $3 million in cap space right now. Doesn't mean it can't happen but it's going to be ****ing tight.
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Have the Cards eat as much of it as they can. Honestly, they should eat all of it if it brings them a higher pick.
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We have $3 million in cap space right now. Doesn't mean it can't happen but it's going to be ****ing tight.
They will have to do something even if they don't trade for Hopkins. Not enough cap for the draft class and in season signings and udfa pool.

They are projected to have nearly 73 million in space for 2024. They.can make magic happen.
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Looks like the Cards have about $20M in cap space ATM, if they trade Hopkins that will go up to about $29M.

If possible...have them convert $19M of his $19.45M before the trade. Guessing this would mean that his 2023 base(what KC actually pays and gets hit for cap wise) would be $450k. and the Cards cap would go down to only being $9M, which is still plenty for signing rookies and what ever else.

If this could happen I could see #31 being on the table. I'm just not sure if that much money can actually be eaten up like this or if the NFL would say no no no.
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They ain't getting a first for him.

Maybe a 2nd if they ate that much.
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They ain't getting a first for him.

Maybe a 2nd if they ate that much.
Any interest in also getting Budda?
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Any interest in also getting Budda?
no.
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They ain't getting a first for him.

Maybe a 2nd if they ate that much.
I think the deal would be done already if anyone offered a 2nd.

The waiting game is them figuring out how low they really want to go to facilitate a trade.
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