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Old 01-30-2023, 05:54 PM  
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Joe "Cool" and being elite? Yeah, no.
I admit I realize I have been overestimating him like many others. He is quite good but elite he is not and he definitely hasn't earned his "cool" moniker. And I have heard multiple pundits now say, even after yesterday he is a better QB than Mahomes, but Mahomes is the better player. Talk about moving the goalposts to fit your narrative.

I will give him credit for the Brady comparison though as he has absolutely been carried by his defense and luck like Brady was in his earlier years in winning playoff games. But Burrow isn't as clutch as Brady was even back then.

And for those who think he is even close to Mahomes:

Burrow 0 times 30 point postseason games to Mahomes 8
300 yard games is 1 to 7
TD drives in fourth quarter is a whopping 0 to 14

Good old Nick Wright has more in the video but here is a picture with the most relevant part of Burrow's fourth quarter stats in the postseason. It's remarkable the Bengals have won any games honestly in the postseason.

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Old 01-30-2023, 05:58 PM   #3
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mahomes would never punt with those WR

joe has 2018 mahomes team and 2020 josh allen results
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Old 01-30-2023, 05:59 PM   #4
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He's been made to look a lot better than he is by being able to chuck it up to his incredibly talented WR group.

Happy to know he'll be the highest paid QB in the league soon.
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Old 01-30-2023, 06:00 PM   #5
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Burrow got a big whiff of his own ass and loved the smell. Mahomes >>> everyone else.
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Old 01-30-2023, 06:03 PM   #6
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I think he is an elite QB who played poorly in this big games. Not sure its all one thing or another thing.
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Old 01-30-2023, 06:04 PM   #7
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I think he is an elite QB who played poorly in this big games. Not sure its all one thing or another thing.

You don’t get to be elite with fourth quarter post season stats like his.
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Old 01-30-2023, 06:07 PM   #8
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I've had it up to my eyeballs with Cincy as much as anyone here, but to say he isn't elite is pure hubris in the afterglow of victory IMHO
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He is a great QB, but I am curious to see how it goes with the team over time. His defense has done a phenomenal job in the Playoffs the last two years, giving up below 19 points per game and never more than 23 points in a playoff game the last 2 seasons. Is that type of performance on defense going to continue forever in Burrow's career? It remains to be seen. Joe might have to win more shootout games in the future, where he needs 30+ points to win. That will be interesting to see how it goes for them.
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You don’t get to be elite with fourth quarter post season stats like his.
Did you watch Patrick Mahomes in the second half of the AFC Championship last year? Come on man.

Burrow is an elite QB there is nothing wrong with calling things as they are.
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I've had it up to my eyeballs with Cincy as much as anyone here, but to say he isn't elite is pure hubris in the afterglow of victory IMHO
Nah, those 4th quarter splits actually are rather telling. Before the Bills game all of his playoff games had been decided in single score games. The defense is doing the heavy lifting down the stretches in these games.

Edit: I'd still firmly classify him as an elite QB
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Nah, Burrow is elite.
I see no reason to try to dismiss his abilities. Folks would do that to Mahomes and it would drive me crazy.
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Did you watch Patrick Mahomes in the second half of the AFC Championship last year? Come on man.

Burrow is an elite QB there is nothing wrong with calling things as they are.
7 game sample size is not insignificant and as was just pointed out in all those games except the Bills game points were needed in the fourth quarter and he has not delivered at all. Literally not even once with a TD drive.
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