Secondary is starting to really come together

[staylor26]

Thornhill Reid

Sneed McDuffie Fenton

I love this group. Very young. Very athletic. Willing tacklers.

Need to add a 3rd safety in the 3rd or 4th.

Maybe Pitre in the 2nd if you really want to make this group special.

[Chieftain]

On paper this looks to be the most balanced Chiefs team I have ever seen. There is really no gnawing weakness anywhere in the roster. IDL can be improved but it's not necessarily bad.
Many people are underselling the Chiefs but I don't see anyone in the AFC that is marginally better. This defense looks legit. They are younger, deeper and hungrier.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

On paper this looks to be the most balanced Chiefs team I have ever seen. There is really no gnawing weakness anywhere in the roster. IDL can be improved but it's not necessarily bad.
Many people are underselling the Chiefs but I don't see anyone in the AFC that is marginally better. This defense looks legit. They are younger, deeper and hungrier.

Sign Akiem Hicks, Melvin Ingram, and a vet WR (maybe a Jarvis Landry), and let’s roll.

Love this roster and it’s potential to compete now and for years to come.

[Stryker]

I hope this is true - guy's I want us to win in Cincy more than anything! I want this Bengals team to realize this is not LAST year - the new Chiefs D is coming! I want this game more so than ever. Who Dey? Dey the the CHIEFS!

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

On paper this looks to be the most balanced Chiefs team I have ever seen. There is really no gnawing weakness anywhere in the roster. IDL can be improved but it's not necessarily bad.
Many people are underselling the Chiefs but I don't see anyone in the AFC that is marginally better. This defense looks legit. They are younger, deeper and hungrier.

I agree!

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

On paper this looks to be the most balanced Chiefs team I have ever seen. There is really no gnawing weakness anywhere in the roster. IDL can be improved but it's not necessarily bad.
Many people are underselling the Chiefs but I don't see anyone in the AFC that is marginally better. This defense looks legit. They are younger, deeper and hungrier.

Need a better pass rush.


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[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

On paper this looks to be the most balanced Chiefs team

For now.

After touting how good and deep our DL was just a year a go and then watching them get their manure pushed in for most of the season it is just "wait and see" for me. We have to be patient with the new young guys who will make mistakes.

The only thing for sure I know about this defense is that Bolten, Gay and Jones are true ballers. And I hope our DL is talented enough to keep our LBs clean.

Hopefully someone in the 2ndary will step up and be that vocal leader that HB was.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

On paper this looks to be the most balanced Chiefs team I have ever seen. There is really no gnawing weakness anywhere in the roster. IDL can be improved but it's not necessarily bad.
Many people are underselling the Chiefs but I don't see anyone in the AFC that is marginally better. This defense looks legit. They are younger, deeper and hungrier.

I tend to agree with you.

Defensively we need a few things to go right on the line, and we could use another signing and/or Ingram's return there. Otherwise, the defense should be greatly improved.

Offensively we need our new look WR corp to work out, but on paper it should be more talented overall. I like that we still invested in the RT spot even though our linew as good last year. I'm excited to see what adjustments we'll make to the offensive game plans.

I might like this team to go back to the Super Bowl this year, with a little luck as you always need to get there. Having more balance on both sides of the ball gives you the flexibility you need to win playoff games a lot of different ways.

[Rasputin]

I'd feel so much better for our DBs if we had another DT that could penetrate or collapse the pocket just enough to disrupt the play and give the DBs a chance to make a play on the ball if the Quarterback is under pressure.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

No matter how many times i watch it i still cant figure out how he got put on his ass so badly.

It wasn't even that great of a double move. Hell, that HS kid i played ball with last weekend had a better double move.

As much as I hate to, I think this is where you have to consider the possibility of shenanigans. I’ve seen this a number of times. CB goes down for no apparent reason. At some point you have to wonder if the reason you “still can’t figure out how he got put on his ass so badly” is because he wasn’t.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Chiefs Defense 2021 (according to Pro Football Reference):

Hurries - 4th
Hurry % - 3rd
Knockdowns - 8th
Knockdown % - 8th
Pressures - 6th
Pressure % - 5th
Sacks - 29th

I think Veach believes the pass rush only needs a bit of a boost and the problem was that the secondary wasn’t holding up quite as long as it needed to.

The narrative that the pass rush was/is bad really needs to stop. A bad pass rushing team doesn’t finish 3rd in hurry % or 5th in pressure %. Sacks are very unpredictable and fluctuate greatly year to year.

Re-sign Ingram and they’re good to go.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

On paper this looks to be the most balanced Chiefs team I have ever seen. There is really no gnawing weakness anywhere in the roster. IDL can be improved but it's not necessarily bad.
Many people are underselling the Chiefs but I don't see anyone in the AFC that is marginally better. This defense looks legit. They are younger, deeper and hungrier.

I don’t think they’ll have any major weaknesses, but I’d feel better if they brought in a reliable upper-tier WR (and re-signed Ingram). Until then, it’s hard to feel confident that they’ll win enough vs a brutal schedule to keep pace with Buffalo. And it may be very difficult to even win the division. The Chargers could be really tough to beat this year.

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

The narrative that the pass rush was/is bad really needs to stop. A bad pass rushing team doesn’t finish 3rd in hurry % or 5th in pressure %. Sacks are very unpredictable and fluctuate greatly year to year.

Re-sign Ingram and they’re good to go.

I haven’t looked it up, but I’d guess were also near the top at blitz percentage. I’m guessing those overall pressures and hurries don’t take that into account?

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

I haven’t looked it up, but I’d guess were also near the top at blitz percentage. I’m guessing those overall pressures and hurries don’t take that into account?

Yeah, Chiefs we’re 8th in Blitz Percentage.

However, the top 7 in Hurry % all had a Blitz % of at least 23%.

It’s not until you get to the Eagles (8th in Hurry %), that you find a team with a significantly lower Blitz % (16.4%).

So basically, the Chiefs Blitz % is in line with the other top teams in Hurry%, Pressure %, etc, but far lower in sacks.

For whatever reason, the Chiefs pressure didn’t result in sacks like other teams at the top of these lists.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

The narrative that the pass rush was/is bad really needs to stop. A bad pass rushing team doesn’t finish 3rd in hurry % or 5th in pressure %. Sacks are very unpredictable and fluctuate greatly year to year.

Re-sign Ingram and they’re good to go.

They had to manufacture pressure, it did not come from the DL. That is the issue. When you have to manufacture it most of the time, it leaves other stuff vulnerable.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

On paper this looks to be the most balanced Chiefs team I have ever seen. There is really no gnawing weakness anywhere in the roster. IDL can be improved but it's not necessarily bad.
Many people are underselling the Chiefs but I don't see anyone in the AFC that is marginally better. This defense looks legit. They are younger, deeper and hungrier.

Don't see how you can say that. Looks to me like the roster has a lot of question marks that must trend upwards to have success. The Chargers have a better roster and the Raiders could also. However, they both have other issues that might slow them down, but based on talent, they have more IMO.