****Official 2022 Free Agency Megathread****

[The Franchise]

Legal tampering period begins tomorrow, March 14th. Throw all of your rumors and moves in here.

Obviously, for the people who hate mega threads, feel free to create a new thread for larger moves and anything Chiefs.

DANIEL SORENSEN IS NO LONGER ON THIS TEAM!

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Way too many Veach and Reid apologists here. No doubt this team is in the most competitive era it has been in under this regime, but they are not without their warts. The Britt Reid fiasco cost them a second consecutive Super Bowl in my opinion, and that second half of the Bengals game was pure meltdown. The Frank Clark deal along with the Edwards-Helaire selection are not looking good years later and the voids on the defense currently with no veteran presence at certain levels of the defence are very concerning. The draft won’t solve all issues for this team and I am shocked Veach has not done more to at least insulate some positions with veteran additions. I hope there are no desperation moves ahead burning draft capital to get a big ticket name that robs the team of future cap management and the ability to replenish. One would feel better about such a move if the overall depth of the team was better, but there are so many needs right now.

What is there to apologize for?

This fan base has become ridiculously entitled and unrealistic.

[WhawhaWhat]

Blessed to see another year 🙏🏾🙏🏾 pic.twitter.com/HNxW6FzSsB

— darrel williams (@darrelwilliams_) April 16, 2022

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Way too many Veach and Reid apologists here. No doubt this team is in the most competitive era it has been in under this regime, but they are not without their warts. The Britt Reid fiasco cost them a second consecutive Super Bowl in my opinion, and that second half of the Bengals game was pure meltdown. The Frank Clark deal along with the Edwards-Helaire selection are not looking good years later and the voids on the defense currently with no veteran presence at certain levels of the defence are very concerning. The draft won’t solve all issues for this team and I am shocked Veach has not done more to at least insulate some positions with veteran additions. I hope there are no desperation moves ahead burning draft capital to get a big ticket name that robs the team of future cap management and the ability to replenish. One would feel better about such a move if the overall depth of the team was better, but there are so many needs right now.

Also a lot of idiots like yourself.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by staylor26

What is there to apologize for?

This fan base has become ridiculously entitled and unrealistic.

You are missing my point. The same posters who claim Veach/Reid walk on water are the same ones who scream for heads to roll on Sundays when things don’t go the Chiefs way.
Of course I’m pleased with the winning culture that has been established, but that does not mean organizational decisions and coaching cannot come under scrutiny.
This current version of the Chiefs could arguably have appeared in the last four Superbowls but it only won one. The Hill trade is also a sign not everything is as peachy keen as fans would like to believe. Apparently Hill’s price tag was not prohibitive to KC but he left a winning culture and elite QB to go to Miami? It will be interesting to see the approach the remainder of the offseason. Questioning decisions and losses in clutch moments doesn't make me less of a fan. Blindly drinking the kool aid has never ended well for any fanbase either.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Also a lot of idiots like yourself.

Great reply

[-King-]

I actually don't have a problem with our free agency obviously other than a big problem with the Tyreek trade. I like the Reid signing and really liked signing Juju as a #2.

I'm hoping we trade for a DE or something because if not that means Frank Clark is going to be a starter again which is just flat out terrible. But I think we make a trade for a DE or CB because otherwise restructuring Thuney makes no sense and as good of a drafter as Veach is, finding a starting DE, CB, and WR in the same draft is an impossible task.

[In58men]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Blessed to see another year 🙏🏾🙏🏾 pic.twitter.com/HNxW6FzSsB

— darrel williams (@darrelwilliams_) April 16, 2022

Ma boy thicc

[Redbled]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Way too many Veach and Reid apologists here. No doubt this team is in the most competitive era it has been in under this regime, but they are not without their warts. The Britt Reid fiasco cost them a second consecutive Super Bowl in my opinion, and that second half of the Bengals game was pure meltdown. The Frank Clark deal along with the Edwards-Helaire selection are not looking good years later and the voids on the defense currently with no veteran presence at certain levels of the defence are very concerning. The draft won’t solve all issues for this team and I am shocked Veach has not done more to at least insulate some positions with veteran additions. I hope there are no desperation moves ahead burning draft capital to get a big ticket name that robs the team of future cap management and the ability to replenish. One would feel better about such a move if the overall depth of the team was better, but there are so many needs right now.

Easy to find things to armchair. If we don’t trade for Clark we may have no SB wins in this era.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Way too many Veach and Reid apologists here. No doubt this team is in the most competitive era it has been in under this regime, but they are not without their warts. The Britt Reid fiasco cost them a second consecutive Super Bowl in my opinion, and that second half of the Bengals game was pure meltdown. The Frank Clark deal along with the Edwards-Helaire selection are not looking good years later and the voids on the defense currently with no veteran presence at certain levels of the defence are very concerning. The draft won’t solve all issues for this team and I am shocked Veach has not done more to at least insulate some positions with veteran additions. I hope there are no desperation moves ahead burning draft capital to get a big ticket name that robs the team of future cap management and the ability to replenish. One would feel better about such a move if the overall depth of the team was better, but there are so many needs right now.

I can't blame Veach when Mahomes flat out blows the game. As for the TB loss in the SB, we had 4 starters out on the OL and TB was fully healthy. Veach turned that horrible OL into one of the best units in ONE OFFSEASON. Veach did a great job, so did Andy, Mahomes blew it. With that said, Mahomes saved us against BUF so I can't really be mad at him either. We just couldn't get it done.

When you lose like that a message needs to be sent to the team. No more Tyran, Tyreek, Robinson, Pringle, or Williams. That's a strong message. Hats off to Veach again. Now watch him go kill this draft.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

You are missing my point. The same posters who claim Veach/Reid walk on water are the same ones who scream for heads to roll on Sundays when things don’t go the Chiefs way.
Of course I’m pleased with the winning culture that has been established, but that does not mean organizational decisions and coaching cannot come under scrutiny.
This current version of the Chiefs could arguably have appeared in the last four Superbowls but it only won one. The Hill trade is also a sign not everything is as peachy keen as fans would like to believe. Apparently Hill’s price tag was not prohibitive to KC but he left a winning culture and elite QB to go to Miami? It will be interesting to see the approach the remainder of the offseason. Questioning decisions and losses in clutch moments doesn't make me less of a fan. Blindly drinking the kool aid has never ended well for any fanbase either.

I don't believe that's accurate

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Way too many Veach and Reid apologists here. No doubt this team is in the most competitive era it has been in under this regime, but they are not without their warts. The Britt Reid fiasco cost them a second consecutive Super Bowl in my opinion, and that second half of the Bengals game was pure meltdown. The Frank Clark deal along with the Edwards-Helaire selection are not looking good years later and the voids on the defense currently with no veteran presence at certain levels of the defence are very concerning. The draft won’t solve all issues for this team and I am shocked Veach has not done more to at least insulate some positions with veteran additions. I hope there are no desperation moves ahead burning draft capital to get a big ticket name that robs the team of future cap management and the ability to replenish. One would feel better about such a move if the overall depth of the team was better, but there are so many needs right now.

There's a bizarre group who think Veach is absolutely beyond reproach and that any questioning of any decision is sacrilege. However, I think the fairest argument they use is the one that says "you have to wait to see how things pan out, and you have to take all decisions together, not in isolation". I think as an overall assessment of Veach that's the correct approach.

But it does get silly when people can't accept any mistakes have been made. I mean, all GMs make mistakes. If someone is saying he flat out sucks, then fine, that's silly. If someone is saying "I don't think CEH was a good pick" or "Frank Clark's contract was a mistake" or "I'm not 100% convinced the Hill trade will work out" - it is odd how personally some people seem to take this, they're hardly indefensible positions to take.

In terms of this FA it's obviously slower than last year's. A lot of people liked his decisiveness last year and now apparently think a slower/"build it through the draft" approach is right. I think that's actually reasonable, simply because this FA I've not seen a whole load of realistic options out there for us. There's no-one that's been brought in that I'm that excited about, but equally I could see all of them work out. But I also agree, at this point there's a lot of holes and we've definitely not used FA to fill ALL needs. Thank God we have a million draft picks.

[Rainbarrel]

Knowmo knows his nitch

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

You are missing my point. The same posters who claim Veach/Reid walk on water are the same ones who scream for heads to roll on Sundays when things don’t go the Chiefs way.
Of course I’m pleased with the winning culture that has been established, but that does not mean organizational decisions and coaching cannot come under scrutiny.
This current version of the Chiefs could arguably have appeared in the last four Superbowls but it only won one. The Hill trade is also a sign not everything is as peachy keen as fans would like to believe. Apparently Hill’s price tag was not prohibitive to KC but he left a winning culture and elite QB to go to Miami? It will be interesting to see the approach the remainder of the offseason. Questioning decisions and losses in clutch moments doesn't make me less of a fan. Blindly drinking the kool aid has never ended well for any fanbase either.

Sure the decisions can be scrutinized; but along with context should come proportional response.

The people who want to fire everybody because a draft pick didn't work out are not offering thoughtful criticism. The people who want to fire Andy Reid for any of his shortcomings are not offering thoughtful criticism because ALL coaches have shortcomings and there's literally not a better coach in football for Patrick Mahomes-so maybe people should cool their jets.

This team, as it was constructed, was in a phase of diminishing returns.

I was shocked we traded Hill. After looking at the numbers, and looking at the haul of picks, I get it, and I'm on board with the idea of a new phase. We're zigging while everyone else zags in an attempt to catch up to where we WERE. Only the people inside Arrowhead know what we will BE in September. It's going to look different.

I'm excited. I have theories, as do you all I'm sure about what we're doing, but I can't wait to see it for myself.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

You're acting like Juju is ****ing Drob or something.

We're not in nearly as bad a shape as some of you are making out.

and trading for another veteran receiver that's wanting top dollar would be negating any value in trading Hill. I mean why do that if we're just going to pay Cooks or Lockett?

it's gonna be okay, man. Let's just see what shakes out over the next month or so.

but the offense is going to look different. Just get that in your head. It's going to be different.

Doesn't mean it'll be worse. Reid never has shitty offenses. But it will be different.

We have Mahomes and Reid. Of course it will be OK.

But OK isn't the standard anymore. I want another championship.

I'm not writing off the offense yet. But I am very nervous. As of now we are too easy to defend.

I want one of Burks/Olave and a Shakir added in the draft if we don't trade for a vet.

We can't afford another Mecole with our highest pick this year if we want to win the Superbowl.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

We have Mahomes and Reid. Of course it will be OK.

But OK isn't the standard anymore. I want another championship.

I'm not writing off the offense yet. But I am very nervous. As of now we are too easy to defend.

I want one of Burks/Olave and a Shakir added in the draft if we don't trade for a vet.

We can't afford another Mecole with our highest pick this year if we want to win the Superbowl.

When I say it will be OK, I mean that I fully expect Veach and Reid to put a contender on the field. I fully appreciate that THAT is the standard now.

The offense is too easy to defend? I would argue that. I would argue that it BECAME too easy to defend LAST season. Hill averaged what, like 11 ypc? That negates him, really. If I can do that as a defense playing KC, I'm real pleased with myself.

Other than Hill's otherwordly ability to track a deep ball, Hardman can do many of the things Hill could do. All of the jet sweep stuff, WR screen stuff-Hardman can threaten a defense in the same way. We've added MVS, who is a big, fast deep threat that you have to account for. We've added Juju, a physical YAC machine who must be accounted for. And we still have Kelce. If we actually run the ball enough to be a threat there, this offense as it stands can threaten every blade of grass-and there's NO WAY Veach and Reid are done yet. I'm excited, but I'm unconcerned. It's entirely possible that this offense may be more EFFICIENT if less EXPLOSIVE. Although last season, it was often NEITHER for long stretches.

And as I said, I fully expect at least one if not two WR's in the draft. Only MVS is on the roster for '23. That tells me that Veach is targeting guys in this draft.

We have EIGHT picks in the first four rounds. EIGHT shots in the chamber to restock the talent on this team. I think this is going to be a LOT of fun.