Broncos trade for Russell Wilson

[KC Hawks]

Seahawks Receive:

1st Round Pick
1st Round Pick
2nd Round Pick
2nd Round Pick
5th Round Pick
Drew Lock
Shelby Harris
Noah Fant

Broncos Receive:

Russell Wilson
4th Round Pick

— Allan Bell (@AllanBell247) March 8, 2022

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by manchambo

Jeudy is dogshit. That’s all you needed to say. That or jump up and down like a monkey and throw your shit around.

I've been trying to give you all kinds of counterexamples of actual good WRs who did well with mediocre game manager QBs, but you're the one who says, "Meeeeehhhhh... that's just one example!"

Like, do I really have to write the goddamn list for you? Can't you just mentally do that yourself and not waste like 20 minutes of my life?

[staylor26]

DeVonta Smith just had almost 1,000 yards and 5 TD’s with a guy that can’t throw the football.

[manchambo]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I've been trying to give you all kinds of counterexamples of actual good WRs who did well with mediocre game manager QBs, but you're the one who says, "Meeeeehhhhh... that's just one example!"

Like, do I really have to write the goddamn list for you? Can't you just mentally do that yourself and not waste like 20 minutes of my life?

How many receiving yards did Hill have in his first 2 years?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by manchambo

How many receiving yards did Hill have in his first 2 years?

1,776 yards and 13 TDs.

And Tyreek was a small school guy that was still learning to play WR.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I've been trying to give you all kinds of counterexamples of actual good WRs who did well with mediocre game manager QBs, but you're the one who says, "Meeeeehhhhh... that's just one example!"

Like, do I really have to write the goddamn list for you? Can't you just mentally do that yourself and not waste like 20 minutes of my life?

I just feel like this conversation ended when you brought up DJ Moore.

Teddy Bridgewater got 3,000 receiving yards out of Moore, Samuel and Robbie Anderson.

The same damn guy got 2,000 out of this superstar trio of Sutton, Jeudy and Patrick.

It’s the same quarterback! The very next season!

Why are we still talking about this? We have the lab results.

[Rasputin]

I hope both our game are played late in the season with below 10 degrees weather. I don't think he's going like playing in frost bite conditions at either Arrowhead or Mile High.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by staylor26

1,776 yards and 13 TDs.

And Tyreek was a small school guy that was still learning to play WR.

And had a WR-adverse QB throwing him the ball.

Yeah, Jeudy would be Rice right now if it weren't for injuhwies and those gosh darn game manager QBs!

[CrossCheck]

Originally Posted by staylor26

1,776 yards and 13 TDs.

And Tyreek was a small school guy that was still learning to play WR.

plus 3 more rushing, the same amount that Jeudy has receiving in two years.

[manchambo]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

And had a WR-adverse QB throwing him the ball.

Yeah, Jeudy would be Rice right now if it weren't for injuhwies and those gosh darn game manager QBs!

Oh, so that matters that the hill had a “wr adverse” QB?

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I just feel like this conversation ended when you brought up DJ Moore.

Teddy Bridgewater got 3,000 receiving yards out of Moore, Samuel and Robbie Anderson.

The same damn guy got 2,000 out of this superstar trio of Sutton, Jeudy and Patrick.

It’s the same quarterback! The very next season!

Why are we still talking about this? We have the lab results.

Are you trying to say DJ Moore is a bad receiver? Dude is #5 in receiving yards over the last 3 years, ahead of Tyreek.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Are you trying to say DJ Moore is a bad receiver? Dude is #5 in receiving yards over the last 3 years, ahead of Tyreek.

I am not.

I'm saying that Moore, Anderson and Samuel is a good trio. But nobody would say that's some superstar group.

And those guys were a full third better than what Bridgewater did with your trio. That's an absolute ass-kicking. They averaged 1,000 yards each and yours averaged 700.

Y'all are saying that you'd take Sutton/Jeudy/Patrick over Hill/Kelce/Hardman and I'm saying your group can't even come close to hanging with Moore/Anderson/Samuel with the same guy under center so maybe tap the brakes on the group featuring a couple of guys that will be in Canton someday.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I am not.

I'm saying that Moore, Anderson and Samuel is a good trio. But nobody would say that's some superstar group.

And those guys were a full third better than what Bridgewater did with your trio. That's an absolute ass-kicking. They averaged 1,000 yards each and yours averaged 700.

Y'all are saying that you'd take Sutton/Jeudy/Patrick over Hill/Kelce/Hardman and I'm saying your group can't even come close to hanging with Moore/Anderson/Samuel with the same guy under center so maybe tap the brakes on the group featuring a couple of guys that will be in Canton someday.

Exactly. Donk logic. All the losing has warped their brains.

[The Franchise]

This thread has three groups of people in it.

1. Bronco Homers - Wilson is going to win multiple championships because the Broncos have a top 5 defense and an amazing group of weapons. Wilson has never had this great of talent around him.

2. Middle of the road - This was a win for the Broncos but this team is not as stacked as everyone says it is. He's good enough to elevate that offense and get them to the playoffs but a championship is not guaranteed. The Broncos are probably on par with the Chargers but have a more proven QB.

3. Chiefs homers - Wilson is garbage. The Broncos mortgaged their future for a broken QB who hasn't done shit without a defense. The Broncos are still 4th best in the AFC.

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by manchambo

Again, just go look at what neutral commentators say about those receivers. Or consider why Wilson was all for Denver and nope to Washington, Philly, etc.

And I don’t really have a perspective on my team being bad for a long time—certainly nothing compared to you.

I remember neutral commentators falling head over heels for Ryan Leaf while measuring him to Peyton Manning. I remember the slobbering over Mandarich, Emtman, Schuler, Akili Smith, and Jamarcus Russell...never forget, you are talking to people born and raised in "The Show-Me State".

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I am not.

I'm saying that Moore, Anderson and Samuel is a good trio. But nobody would say that's some superstar group.

And those guys were a full third better than what Bridgewater did with your trio. That's an absolute ass-kicking. They averaged 1,000 yards each and yours averaged 700.

Y'all are saying that you'd take Sutton/Jeudy/Patrick over Hill/Kelce/Hardman and I'm saying your group can't even come close to hanging with Moore/Anderson/Samuel with the same guy under center so maybe tap the brakes on the group featuring a couple of guys that will be in Canton someday.

A) You're using a single data point to prove your point. I could just as easily point to 2015 MIN (Bridgewater's only other full season) to show that Denver's receivers are better than Diggs/Rudolph/Wallace/Thielen. Same QB, right?

B) I think DJ Moore is a superstar. His stats basically stayed the same in 2022 when catching passes from Sam Darnold and Zombie Cam Newton, and in 2020 mostly catching passes from someone named Kyle Allen. He apparently produces a lot with horrible QBs.