Yeah the line was horrendous, but the refs put this game out of reach

[dlphg9]

Play by the line was the worst excuse for blocking that I have ever seen and the WRs let Pat down so many times it was unreal, but our play way the least of our worries. The refs were not going to let Tom Brady lose a home Super Bowl.

7 penalties for 82 yds on KC

1 penalty for 5 yds on TB

5 of those 7 penalties were key reasons as to why the Bucs had a 21-6 lead at halftime.

On the Bucs 2nd TD they were gifted 3 huge penalties

The holding call on the punt which made us punt again. Punt was shanked and instead of the Bucs starting at their own 30 they start at the KC 38.

The horse shit defensive holding call that negated a Mathieu int. One of many penalties that was borderline at best. This type of play happens all season and is rarely called during the regular season and is never called in the postseason since the officials typically swallow their whistles.

Horseshit offsides call on the FG which resulted in a first down. Didn't look like he was lined up in the neutral zone and there definitely should have been a measurement to verify that it was actually a first down.

Very next play Bucs score a TD.

Bucs 3rd TD drive to go up 21-6 right before halftime is another bullshit sequence of ticky tack penalties that should never been called. One 34 yard pass interference call because feet got tangled and the WR fell. A play you see, but is never called a penalty. A few plays later we see a ball thrown out of the back of the end zone that nearly hits the wall, a ball that had no chance of being caught, but still the flags come in flying. PI on TM and the ball goes to the 1 yard line.

The officials seemed to be calling two different games. When the Bucs had the ball the officials were quick to throw a flag, but once the Chiefs went on offense this officiating crew decided to go back to the way playoff games are normally called and they didn't want to affect the game.

That game should have been 10-6 at half and the momentum would have been in KCs favor.

Sure during a game I will bitch about officiating, but once I've had time to think rationally I'm usually not a blame the refs guy. I gave myself some time to think about this loss with a clear head and I still very strongly believe those officials influenced the outcome of that game and it was much more than they typically do.

There was one play towards the end of the game where Suh lunged at Pat leading with his helmet and it looked like he made helmet to helmet contact with Pat, no flag. Another time I saw someone hit Pat in the helmet with their hand, no flag. I saw multiple instances in which a defender made contact with a receiver early or grabbing and holding a receiver after the initial 5 yards.

These guys are playing against the best of the best and it doesn't take many mistakes to cause a superior team to lose to an inferior team. Having shit stain refs that are clearly favoring 1 team over the other can be impossible to over come.

Tom Brady has consistently had the refs help him out. I went back to the NE vs NYG game, which just happens to be the most fairly officiated game and what a surprise the Tom Bradies lost that game, to see how fair the officiating has been.

Tom Brady teams (5 games) - 21 penalties/146 penalty yds/17 1st downs from penalties

His opponents - 40 penalties/344 penalty yds/8 1st downs from penalties

Hell tonight we had 120 penalty yards which is only 26 yds less than Tom's teams have had in 5 games. Tonight Tom's team got 6 first downs from the result of a penalty. That's almost the entire total of his SB opponents combined.

Once again the refs were instrumental in Tom winning another Super Bowl. Tom's and the Patriots dynasty/legacy is the biggest fraud in sports. Phony champions that consistently cheated and required the NFL and refs to bail them out. The sooner that fraud Tom hangs it up the better.

Here's some more "interesting" stats

So Tom Brady has had 10 SB games and in those 10 games his teams have been penalized

47 times for 324 yds and has been given 26 1st downs from penalty yards.

His opponents have been penalized 71 times for a total of 562 yards and have 15 1st downs from penalty yards.

Now let's look at games since 2001 in which Tom Brady wasn't present and see how penalties were called.

11 games

135 penalties, 1125 yards, 29 1st downs from Penalties

That averages out to 6.1 penalties, 51 yards, 1.3 1st downs off penalties per team

Opponents of the Tom in the SB average 7.1 penalties, 56 yards, and 1.5 1st downs from penalties

Tom Bradys team averages in the SB are 4.7 penalties, 32.4 yards, 2.6 1st downs from penalties.

The 1st downs from penalties is the most bullshit of all. Since 2001 there has only been 4 teams that have gotten 4 or more 1st downs from penalties. Tom Bradys teams have been the recipients of 3 of those 4. There has been 12 instances in which teams were awarded 3 or more first downs from Penalties. Tom Brady's teams got 5 out of the 12.

50% of the time Tom has been helped by more than 3 penalties for 1st downs. Only 20% of Tom's opponents have benefitted from that same stat. In 11 other SBs between 22 teams only 23% of teams benefitted from the same thing.

Tom's a God damn fraud. I wish someone in the media would bring up the bias that the refs show Tom.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Jameis Winston was probably watching the game and wondering where all these refs were last season.

Absolutely.

“If all I had to do n 3rd down was overthrow my WR where nobody else can get it and wait for the flag I wouldn’t have thrown 30 INT’s!”

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Mecca

To be fair we should care less, it's a show.

Yep. It's not worth an emotional investment.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by staylor26

It’s all a coincidence.

Just like the Bucs being the beneficiaries of the most PI yards in 12+ years.

Just like the Bucs getting a beneficial PI call to help win the NFCCG game when they were letting the Bucs corners mug GB’s receivers all game.

It’s all a coincidence.

Going into the game, Brady had the most DPI calls (23) in a single season in the history of the NFL this year. Also a coincidence I'm sure.

[dlphg9]

Here's some more "interesting" stats

So Tom Brady has had 10 SB games and in those 10 games his teams have been penalized

47 times for 324 yds and has been given 26 1st downs from penalty yards.

His opponents have been penalized 71 times for a total of 562 yards and have 15 1st downs from penalty yards.

Now let's look at games since 2001 in which Tom Brady wasn't present and see how penalties were called.

11 games

135 penalties, 1125 yards, 29 1st downs from Penalties

That averages out to 6.1 penalties, 51 yards, 1.3 1st downs off penalties per team

Opponents of the Tom in the SB average 7.1 penalties, 56 yards, and 1.5 1st downs from penalties

Tom Bradys team averages in the SB are 4.7 penalties, 32.4 yards, 2.6 1st downs from penalties.

The 1st downs from penalties is the most bullshit of all. Since 2001 there has only been 4 teams that have gotten 4 or more 1st downs from penalties. Tom Bradys teams have been the recipients of 3 of those 4. There has been 12 instances in which teams were awarded 3 or more first downs from Penalties. Tom Brady's teams got 5 out of the 12.

50% of the time Tom has been helped by more than 3 penalties for 1st downs. Only 20% of Tom's opponents have benefitted from that same stat. In 11 other SBs between 22 teams only 23% of teams benefitted from the same thing.

Tom's a God damn fraud. I wish someone in the media would bring up the bias that the refs show Tom.

[crayzkirk]

Well, at least I won't be buying any SB Merchandise this year...

Can't we just blame Trump? I mean, isn't he the cause of everything bad now?

[dlphg9]

I hate the NFL and Tom Brady. Fake legacy cheating scum.

[ShortRoundChief]

There were calls that were made that I didn't agree with and calls that I did agree with. I defer to my "Remember the Titans" speech. We did not/could not do that to them.

We came in 2nd instead of 1st. It hurts but it beats the shit out of 16th every year.

[Megatron96]

I watched every playoff game this season and last. The refs allowed both teams to play "playoff-style" defense in every game, but this one. We also watched the refs put their heads together on nearly every questionable call throughout the regular season and playoffs and mostly they got the calls right, but not in the SB.

In LV, flags were thrown, at least twice were egregiously bad calls, and there was no discussion, barely a replay, and even the commentators were curiously silent. Did they even try to get the TV ref to explain any of them? I don't recall that either, and during the regular season they were quick to have Steratore or whoever explain what we were seeing.

I don't believe in conspiracy theories, especially as it concerns the NFL, but it was very curious that the refs chose those plays, in those moments to suddenly decide it was week 1, instead of the Super Bowl.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

I don't believe in conspiracy theories, especially as it concerns the NFL, but it was very curious that the refs chose those plays, in those moments to suddenly decide it was week 1, instead of the Super Bowl.

I never did before last night, even though if they wanted TB to win, they certainly didn't have to make it that ****ing obvious. It was almost like Brady himself was mocking the entire thing, knowing he'd get the calls, because the NFL itself didn't need to hand the Patriots 5 first downs on such obvious bullshit calls to steer that game.

But one thing that's always been curious is there's seemingly never anything to fix. It's not like the NFL has to publicly fine refs or whatever.... but, like with the Rams/Saints crew that went on to officiate the SB that year, it's just a terrible look.

And shit like last night should be fire-able, really.

On top of that, I'd love to see leagues in general simply have a 'ref' in the booth who can quickly make things right.... I've always hated the whole "not reviewable" thing, either because it wasn't specifically a reviewable thing (example, a puck bounced off the net once and landed on the back of Jonathan Quick and went in the net, and they called it a goal because it wasn't reviewable at the time) or because it's subjective by nature.

And on top of on top of that, you have refs on the field using freakin' iPads in tents and bullshit when people at home have watched 10 replays with 6 angles before they even get that shit setup.

Just put someone in the ****ing booth to call down and say, hey dildos, there's obviously nothing there. Doesn't have to be every single play broken down into slow-mo with 10 different cameras... just the most obvious stuff in real time.

Showing zero desire to fix that crap just gives them an even worse look in the whole thing.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I never did before last night, even though if they wanted TB to win, they certainly didn't have to make it that ****ing obvious. It was almost like Brady himself was mocking the entire thing, knowing he'd get the calls, because the NFL itself didn't need to hand the Patriots 5 first downs on such obvious bullshit calls to steer that game.

But one thing that's always been curious is there's seemingly never anything to fix. It's not like the NFL has to publicly fine refs or whatever.... but, like with the Rams/Saints crew that went on to officiate the SB that year, it's just a terrible look.

And shit like last night should be fire-able, really.

Seriously. It wasn't like TB needed that much help. Our OL was obviously completely outmatched on the edges, which was my only fear going into the game. And unfortunately I was completely right. Remmers and Wylie didn't hold up at all; they were going backwards so fast on many of those snaps you'd have thought they were wearing roller skates. They were so overmatched I doubt that we would've found a way to win even if the refs hadn't decided to treat the game as a preseason live practice. But when they not only took away our DBs ability to play their brand of defense at all, and curiously didn't throw any flags at their DBs/LBs, they effectively eliminated any chance for KC to even make a game of it.

And I just have to question why it was necessary at all. Why change the way they officiated this game? They could've just pulled that shit when we played CLE or BUF.

Just doesn't make any sense.

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[dlphg9]

God damn Penbrook. Get that dumb shit out of my thread. You worthless bag of shit.

[UK_Chief]

Watching the presser, it’s pretty obvious Andy blames the refs. Pat looked broken in his, hope the guy shakes it off, seems like he’s blaming himself

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Todd Bowles said their goal was to take away PMII's first read as the pressure could get to him. In rewatching the game last night, our receivers were being held/illegal contact all night. Yes, are Oline was atrocious, but them only calling it close on one side made it damn near impossible. That's what folks are not getting...