Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)

[TLO]

Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

He will not get around Mitchell Schwartz.

Whoever lines up on that side will be a non factor.

As a Cal alum, I have the utmost respect for Schwartz. Crazy to think Cal has had that many great linemen (e.g., Alex Mack too) but still suck. Ford would normally line up against Schwartz, but lately they have been moving guys around for maximum impact.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by A8bil

I don't understand the dismissive attitude about Ford. Yeah, he's oft injured, but when he's not, he's an elite pass rusher -- who unfortunately for KC is prone to an occasional brain fart.

Oh, you just wait . . . Ford's going to break your heart. Over and over. And over . . .

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

I grant you the missing players hurting the efficiency of the DL.

But they went into the game knowing they had to have an answer, and gave up 4 TDs in a row in the first half.

Then in the second half it looks they finally made the right adjustments; NO fumbles away a possession, punts and kicks a FG. Seems like the Niners defense figured out how to stop NO. Then they allow two TDs in the 4th quarter. So apparently their fix was very temporary.

Regardless, if your defense plays anywhere near that level, or doesn't make adjustments that stick, they're going to have a tough day against Mahomes and co.

Agreed. It's going to be tough even if they are at full strength and have a good scheme. With the WR speed KC has and Mahomes ability to throw with any arm action, no lead will be safe. Ask the Texans.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

If the 49ers defensive gameplan is to play a lot of zone.....then I’m going to assume that we’ll aim for a lot of lengthy drives where our players find the soft spot in the zone and sit down for Mahomes. Get the ball out of his hands quickly to negate their rush. Once they’re tired.....then you hit them with the deep kill shots.

100%. To try and do anything else against their rush would be a mistake, IMO.

There will be opportunities to hit big plays at times, especially with KCs speed to create YAC. But for the most part Patrick is going to have to take what they give in the short to intermediate areas. Good news — that’s exactly what he did last year and this preseason against their scheme.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by A8bil

I don't understand the dismissive attitude about Ford. Yeah, he's oft injured, but when he's not, he's an elite pass rusher -- who unfortunately for KC is prone to an occasional brain fart.

You should get used to beginning your 49ers predictions with “if Ford is healthy...”

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Oh, you just wait . . . Ford's going to break your heart. Over and over. And over . . .

I hope your sake you don't end up eating those words. Ford has been pretty solid for SF when he's been able to suit up. Not many mental mistakes.

[burt]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Are you SURE you're not a 49ers fan!??

100% lil' fella....

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[A8bil]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

You should get used to beginning your 49ers predictions with “if Ford is healthy...”

He only needs to stay healthy for one more game.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

100%. To try and do anything else against their rush would be a mistake, IMO.

There will be opportunities to hit big plays at times, especially with KCs speed to create YAC. But for the most part Patrick is going to have to take what they give in the short to intermediate areas. Good news — that’s exactly what he did last year and this preseason against their scheme.

Our receivers need to leave it all on the field. They need to finish every single route like they’re going to get the ball every single time. Those DBs will tire quickly against our elite speed.

A lot of receivers are notorious for not giving it their all on run plays to the opposite side and plays like that. We need to be locked in every single play and leave it all on the field.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by A8bil

I hope your sake you don't end up eating those words. Ford has been pretty solid for SF when he's been able to suit up. Not many mental mistakes.

Just don't say we didn't warn you.

He's not going to be a factor anyway. We can block Ford with a WR. Pringle probably.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

100%. To try and do anything else against their rush would be a mistake, IMO.

There will be opportunities to hit big plays at times, especially with KCs speed to create YAC. But for the most part Patrick is going to have to take what they give in the short to intermediate areas. Good news — that’s exactly what he did last year and this preseason against their scheme.

I should also add — this is really important for staying ahead of the chains. If we do that, Ford will be near useless as really the only threat he presents is pinning his ears back on sure pass downs.

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Just don't say we didn't warn you.

He's not going to be a factor anyway. We can block Ford with a WR. Pringle probably.

Are we still talking about Dee Ford, or you talking about Betty Ford? If he screws the pooch...I'll come back here and bow to your wisdom.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by A8bil

Are we still talking about Dee Ford, or you talking about Betty Ford? If he screws the pooch...I'll come back here and bow to your wisdom.

Hey, don't take my word for it; we've seen Ford get punked by WRs, TEs, a water boy . . .

He's a straight liability against the run, he can't set an edge if you gave him a protractor, he gets blocked by WRs and scat backs, has no coverage skills, and has only one move. And that's without talking about his uncanny ability to line up or just jump off-sides on a regular basis.

And when we first got him, I liked him. But his ceiling turned out to be very low. He's okay on 3rd-and-long. But tends to disappear against quality OTs. So as long as you're willing to understand that he's very limited as a DE/OLB, you're good.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by burt

100% lil' fella....

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L'il?

Sir burt, I am 6' tall and at my heaviest 195 lbs with a big fat head and size 12.5w boot. I may have a babyface but don't let that fool ya...ain't nothing "l'il" ovah heah

[MOARGore]

What was Gus Bradley's strategy against you guys?

Our DC coached under him in Seattle and Jacksonville.