Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)

[TLO]

Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.

[dls6501]

I think we have an advantage when comparing QBs as much as the next guy, but too many posters are painting Jimmy Garapolo to be an Alex Smith clone. Yes, Jimmy plays the game manager role. But he has a higher YPA than Mahomes does this year. Just wanted to point that out.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er

You haven't played anything resembling this team. Our defense is far superior to the powder puffs you faced in the AFC playoffs. Prepare to face a real defense and a real pass rush now. Also you haven't seen anything like our offense. We run the ball with speed and use motion. Henry just plows straight ahead and you know the hole he is going for. They just slam him in there and see if you can stop it. With Shanahan he uses motion, sweeps, reverses, cut backs, plus play action passes. You have absolutely no idea where the ball is going. We are not predictable like the Titans.

- I knew you'd get there soon enough.

[SanDiego49er]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

You have got to be kidding.

Take that pass rush down just a couple notches and you’ll see how great those LBers really are.

You just might get to find out in a couple weeks.

I think you might find out what a real pass rush looks like in a few weeks. We are not the weak and helpless Texans and Titans who can't get to your QB.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by dls6501

I think we have an advantage when comparing QBs as much as the next guy, but too many posters are painting Jimmy Garapolo to be an Alex Smith clone. Yes, Jimmy plays the game manager role. But he has a higher YPA than Mahomes does this year. Just wanted to point that out.

He’s also MUCH more likely to throw a dumb INT.

That’s why even if he’s a little better than Alex, he’s probably in the same tier.

[BangbangNinerGang]

Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang

Bosa: Some of the reason he won Rookie of the year is sacks, a greater portion of that, and why I stated what I did is what is not shown on the stat line,- like QB pressures.

Ford: I was not suggesting this just pointing out to the other poster he lines up elsewhere then he did in KC.

21- Niners favorite personnel group as well, I would guess there will be a lot of looks in practice this week for this and it will be interesting to see how often they use it considering.

Jimmy: I get there is not going to be an agreement, for sure. But his body of work this year is over shadowed by the D and run game. He threw for almost 3K yards (250 Yd avg), 27 TD's with a QBR of 102. Jimmy has had 10 games with a QBR over 100 this year, PM has had 9 (JG includes two games, Washington and Baltimore, where throwing wasn't much of an option). Not by anyway saying he's better, but he can be damn good when he needs to be.

Yards per attempt…

Jimmy Garoppolo: 8.4
Patrick Mahomes: 8.3

No one is saying Garoppolo is a better QB than Mahomes, but the facts are simple: The 49ers have a very capable passing game, and that’s what is ultimately relevant to this Super Bowl:

[Beef Supreme]

Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang

Jimmy: I get there is not going to be an agreement, for sure. But his body of work this year is over shadowed by the D and run game. He threw for almost 3K yards (250 Yd avg), 27 TD's with a QBR of 102. Jimmy has had 10 games with a QBR over 100 this year, PM has had 9 (JG includes two games, Washington and Baltimore, where throwing wasn't much of an option). Not by anyway saying he's better, but he can be damn good when he needs to be.

Throwing wasn't much of an option against Baltimore for Jimmy. Mahomes also played Baltimore, where throwing was an option to the tune of 374 yds and 3 TDs.

[ChiefsCountry]

It's amazing all of these turd 49ers argue exactly like all of the turds that came over who sucked Alex Smith's cock.

[Red Beans]

Originally Posted by Deebo19

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You haven't seen our scheme, motion, deception.

Maybe the Chiefs have seen some of it in practice? I think Andy Reid does some of this.

The idea that SF runs some kind of revolutionary offense that Reid couldn't draw up on a napkin from Q39 is laughable.

[BangbangNinerGang]

Originally Posted by Beef Supreme

Throwing wasn't much of an option against Baltimore for Jimmy. Mahomes also played Baltimore, where throwing was an option to the tune of 374 yds and 3 TDs.

....Because of weather.....

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er

I think you might find out what a real pass rush looks like in a few weeks. We are not the weak and helpless Texans and Titans who can't get to your QB.

We play Bosa and Ingram twice a year.

We had to deal with Ngakoue/Campbell/Allen week 1

Yea yours is better/deeper, but we’ve dealt with an elite pass rush three times this season, and your secondary isn’t nearly as good as the Jags/Chargers.

Those elite pass rush teams with better DB’s kept us under 30 once, and that was when Mahomes was still getting healthy on an absolute shit field that neutralized our speed.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by dls6501

I think we have an advantage when comparing QBs as much as the next guy, but too many posters are painting Jimmy Garapolo to be an Alex Smith clone. Yes, Jimmy plays the game manager role. But he has a higher YPA than Mahomes does this year. Just wanted to point that out.

Except Mahomes was banged up for 90% of the season with zero run game to help slow down pass rushers. Andy went to a shorter passing game to help protect Mahomes from further injury. Smart strategy. But I am gonna ask the question. Give Mahomes the Niners run game and what do you think his yards per attempt would be?

[dls6501]

Originally Posted by staylor26

He’s also MUCH more likely to throw a dumb INT.

That’s why even if he’s a little better than Alex, he’s probably in the same tier.

I agree with that. Dont agree with your second line, but whatever. We are all rooting for us to make him look like Tyler Thigpen.

[BangbangNinerGang]

Originally Posted by Red Beans

Maybe the Chiefs have seen some of it in practice? I think Andy Reid does some of this.

The idea that SF runs some kind of revolutionary offense that Reid couldn't draw up on a napkin from Q39 is laughable.

Look up David Lombardi on Twitter.

[dls6501]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Except Mahomes was banged up for 90% of the season with zero run game to help slow down pass rushers. Andy went to a shorter passing game to help protect Mahomes from further injury. Smart strategy. But I am gonna ask the question. Give Mahomes the Niners run game and what do you think his yards per attempt would be?

The point of my post was not to compare him to Mahomes. Mahomes is worlds better. My point was that Jimmy is much better than most are making him out to be.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er

That's an interesting analysis.

Well, the first bit isn't really an analysis. A list of injuries to key personnel more than anything.

The last two lines are a very abbreviated type of analysis, I guess. Not entirely mine though.

The TEN game, for example, I went through a lengthy examination of that game right after it happened, and concluded that a large part of the loss was due to the offense leaving at least two probable scoring plays on the field. I gave the team a pass because it was Pat's first game back and there was bound to be a little rust. But the fact remained that Pat over-threw an easy TD to Hill by a yard.

Also, while the defense allowed four TDs, they also forced 4 punts and 2 turnovers. Limiting the Titans offense to just 40% scoring possessions, in spite of the fact that Henry ran for 188 yards. It was, IMO, really a premature snap and a block kick that cost the team the game. None of this was not a popular theory at the time. Probably still isn't.