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Old 12-27-2019, 10:18 AM  
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UPDATE - NFT: Kenmore 400 washing machine problem

I'm having a problem with my washer and was hoping someone here might recognize the issue and advise me as to what part needs replacing.


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Old 12-27-2019, 02:25 PM   #31
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Could be the capacitor, a lot of times when the capacitor goes out a motor will just hum. (could be the sound you're describing as buzzing) However if you give the motor a kick start (by manually moving the agitator) it will start & run. Not sure why it wouldn't drain, unless maybe the draining is tied to the spin cycle & because you didn't manually start the spin cycle it faulted out. Not sure I have very little experience with washers, if your furnace breaks I'll be much more helpful.

But if you can find the capacitor they're usually cheap & easy to fix might be worth a try before you let the home warranty vultures in.
Every washer motor I've ever seen is shaded pole induction...no capacitor.
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Old 12-27-2019, 02:43 PM   #32
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Every washer motor I've ever seen is shaded pole induction...no capacitor.
Delorean's can't time travel without a capacitor
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Old 12-27-2019, 03:52 PM   #33
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Pretty sure bad lid switch just means it won't spin, think it should still wash.



Need to pop the front off it to see wtf is going on.
Well I had some wash to do and I have a Kenmore. So when I lift the lid it disengages the switch and stops agitating. His problem could still be the lid switch. I did see that by him messing with time it began agitating so not sure maybe the lid was closed. Those lid switches are pieces of crap 3 times I've had this with my current Kenmore. I would definently not discount running a check.

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Old 12-27-2019, 04:19 PM   #34
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Find a secluded empty field somewhere and put a few shotgun rounds in it. Come back in a month and there will be 10 washer and driers just like it as well as a couch or two, and if you are lucky an abandoned shot up car. This won't fix your washer, but its an interesting human experiment that never fails.
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Old 12-27-2019, 04:29 PM   #35
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Just disconnect the lid switch cut a piece of electrical wire 3 inches or so long strip each end a half inch. Bend in a U and recomplete the circuit. If it works it was your lid switch. The switch is probably good the plastic cover is probably separated where it joins and gorilla glue will fix it till it wears again.

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Old 12-27-2019, 04:30 PM   #36
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Well I had some wash to do and I have a Kenmore. So when I lift the lid it disengages the switch and stops agitating. His problem could still be the lid switch. I did see that by him messing with time it began agitating so not sure maybe the lid was closed. Those lid switches are pieces of crap 3 times I've had this with my current Kenmore. I would definently not discount running a check.

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It's very possible and an easy fix. I think Kenmore is part of Whirlpool now, and they used plastic mechanical switches for many years which we replaced often. It's been a while but i thought those just wouldn't spin but maybe the newer ones are different. More recently I worked with GEs that had magnetic switches that were far less problematic, just everything else sucked about them.

Unfortunately none of them are built to last anymore.
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Old 12-27-2019, 04:46 PM   #37
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It's very possible and an easy fix. I think Kenmore is part of Whirlpool now, and they used plastic mechanical switches for many years which we replaced often. It's been a while but i thought those just wouldn't spin but maybe the newer ones are different. More recently I worked with GEs that had magnetic switches that were far less problematic, just everything else sucked about them.

Unfortunately none of them are built to last anymore.
That's my memory just from using my old top loader. A couple times I forgot to close the lid & it would run through the entire cycle until the spin & then it would just do nothing until you closed the lid. However that was also an older machine newer ones may only fill as it agitating with the lid open could be dangerous.
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Old 12-27-2019, 04:47 PM   #38
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Just disconnect the lid switch cut a piece of electrical wire 3 inches or so long strip each end a half inch. Bend in a U and recomplete the circuit. If it works it was your lid switch. The switch is probably good the plastic cover is probably separated where it joins and gorilla glue will fix it till it wears again.

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It's very possible and an easy fix. I think Kenmore is part of Whirlpool now, and they used plastic mechanical switches for many years which we replaced often. It's been a while but i thought those just wouldn't spin but maybe the newer ones are different. More recently I worked with GEs that had magnetic switches that were far less problematic, just everything else sucked about them.

Unfortunately none of them are built to last anymore.
If I have the machine going and it is agitating... if I lift the lid it stops. When I close the lid it goes BBBBBRRRRRRTTTTTT.

Would it still do this if it was the lid switch?

I don't have an ohm meter but my dad does and we are heading out tomorrow to go visit them. I'm gonna have him hit the capacitor with a meter and see how well it is holding up. No bulges or visible leaks though so I'm not holding my breath there.

Sincerely.... I greatly appreciate the input of you fine folks.
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Old 12-27-2019, 04:49 PM   #39
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If I have the machine going and it is agitating... if I lift the lid it stops. When I close the lid it goes BBBBBRRRRRRTTTTTT.

Would it still do this if it was the lid switch?

Sincerely.... I greatly appreciate the input of you fine folks.
I wouldn't think so. I'd assume if it was the switch it would behave the same whether the door was open or closed. If the operation changes when you open/close it's probably something else.
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Old 12-27-2019, 04:52 PM   #40
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Does anyone have any problems with Kenmore washer and dryers?
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Old 12-29-2019, 06:39 AM   #43
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Did we fix this piece of shit yet?
Not yet. Testing the capacitor tomorrow. If good, I'm gonna order a new timer and see if that gets it.
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Not yet. Testing the capacitor tomorrow. If good, I'm gonna order a new timer and see if that gets it.
It does have one? I'll be damned.
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