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Old 03-30-2018, 03:17 PM  
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Would you move up to get Nelson
He's top 10 . a generational talent at LG. LG will finish off our offense. It would take a shit load to move there but if he falls past 6 would it be worth it ?

That position would be done for 10 years. Protection for Mahomes is priority!
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Old 03-30-2018, 08:35 PM   #31
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The Chiefs haven’t had even average left guard play over a 16 game season since Brian Waters retired after the 2010 season.

It’s a need.
We could have moved one of Fulton or Morse to guard if this was really the "need" to put us over the top. I'm guessing the front office believes they can fill this hole respectably without committing such resources.
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Old 03-30-2018, 08:47 PM   #32
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I’m just not seeing value at OL in this draft. The competent players will be overdrafted because supply is short. Nelson is generational and way out of reach. Wynn is likely a late 1st pick. I’m not sold on Daniels, especially with some saying he may be a 1st rounder as well.
Ragnow is my favourite, but he has to be at Center. Is it ideal to move Morse to LG? Is that an experiment Reid is comfortable with heading into the maiden voyage with Mahomes?
I’m also not crazy about a Guard at 54 however, with so many defensive needs. Smith is a solid prospect, but not before round 3.
OL will be over-drafted this year.
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Old 03-30-2018, 08:57 PM   #33
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I hear what you're saying, but the fact is we've got a crew up there that probably struggles to average 310 by midseason... the template thus far is trying to split the difference between mauler and mover

Break that tendency at one position

Why not get a dedicated 330 pound mauler in there, who cares if he isnt all world in space?... lets get a bigass hoss who can almost guarantee a tough yard or two in that spot
The topic of conversation is about trading into the top 10 from ****ing pick #54, not whether or not we need a LG.

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Old 03-30-2018, 11:29 PM   #34
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No way. Even if he falls to the 20s, I wouldn’t trade up for him.

Look at the history of offensive guards in the first round of the draft.

Big history of busts, very few hits, even when they hit it’s not a great pick in retrospect. For a guard to be a hit, he needs to be a pro bowler in half his years, due to the impact of the position.

Since 2010, 10 guards have been drafted in the first..only 3 have even made a single pro bowl.

Those 3 were

Mike Iupati drafted at 17
David Decastro at 24
Kyle Long at 20

Now, if we could move to the end of the first and only give up a couple fourths to move up at a discount, count me in.
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Old 03-31-2018, 12:55 AM   #35
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The Chiefs haven’t had even average left guard play over a 16 game season since Brian Waters retired after the 2010 season.

It’s a need.
not that big a need when you have four players that net over a 1000 yards in a season
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Old 03-31-2018, 01:00 AM   #36
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not that big a need when you have four players that net over a 1000 yards in a season
The thing is it's the ONLY position on offense not settled. And with Fisher being Fisher it would make Fisher much much much better. Just think ,if Mahomes has real time to throw, we will be unstoppable.
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If Will Hernandez falls to the 40's then I say let's move up to get him.
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The thing is it's the ONLY position on offense not settled. And with Fisher being Fisher it would make Fisher much much much better. Just think ,if Mahomes has real time to throw, we will be unstoppable.
by your logic, the more bore's you blow, due to stamina issues, the more sows they/you will impregnate for more piglets.

you would think giving up on alex, and allowing the offensive line to adjust on the fly without having to go down field would be enough for you..

i assume you have no nose or cheeks to compliment your face at this point in time.

mark my words. in mahomes FIRST season as a starter he will eclipse 4000 yards, which took alex 13 years to do with the same offensive line!
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Old 03-31-2018, 01:14 AM   #39
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by your logic, the more bore's you blow, due to stamina issues, the more sows they/you will impregnate for more piglets.

you would think giving up on alex, and allowing the offensive line to adjust on the fly without having to go down field would be enough for you..

i assume you have no nose or cheeks to compliment your face at this point in time.

mark my words. in mahomes FIRST season as a starter he will eclipse 4000 yards, which took alex 13 years to do with the same offensive line!
Listen here Dickhead. I know 4000 yard by Mahomes is a given . I want 6000 and Nelson is a generational player that would be guarding Mahomes for 15 years.

And it's not bore's . ITS BOARS
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Sup sorter. How ya been, bud?

Gimme a list of guys you think KC will be targeting during the draft. I do think they will try to move up, maybe mid 20s at the most if the right guy falls.

Any targets that fit our scheme well in that range?
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In the history of football...there has never been a team that was just one stellar LG short of a championship.

There have been many that were just one great kicker away...
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In the history of football...there has never been a team that was just one stellar LG short of a championship.

There have been many that were just one great kicker away...
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Definitely. And then we should trade up to #7 to get the best available backup QB.
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