In a game the Chiefs lost by six points, Alex Smith missed three wide open TDs

[Hammock Parties]

And yes he had a clean pocket on the second one.

When has this happened before...against the Steelers...in a crucial game....

Spoiler!

Flame away.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by idrapethat

Gaines lost the game...Alex single handedly got them back in the game. He was bad for most of it, but give him a little credit for getting back in it.

I would actually blame Sorenson. Too many times when he is the deep safety he plays for a hit. Not a tackle, and not the ball. It's frustrating to watch professional football players ignore a fundamental like tackling, but especially when the result of the play is a big run, or as in this case a big pass play. If Sorenson is tracking the receiver for a tackle, or tracking the ball, then the play results in an incompletion. But he didn't do either, instead he tracked the play so he could use his shoulder to lay a hit on the receiver. And maybe that isn't always a bad play, but it was today.

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[chiefzilla1501]

I'm at my maddest at Alex Smith when he doesn't take chances. It was a bad game for him. But he's not usually that wildly inaccurate. On most games, those are completions. I'd rather that than chances he doesn't take. Alex deserves a lot of blame for losing this but I'm generally not worried about this type of Alex Smith being a regular thing. He made a few errant throws, but putting us in any position at all to win the game at all was superhuman given what we had.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Well, yeah. Obviously. But given our personnel, Bob Sutton knew going in we were going to lose the battle in the running game.

His scheme focuses on winning the war. Which they did. They gave up 10 whole points. TEN.

Until the worst CB in the NFL turned an INT into a game-deciding TD, which decided the game because our QB missed three giant opportunities for TDs.

The D wasn't good. But it was absolutely good enough to win that game, and the playoff game last January.

But the offense can't get out of it's own way.

The Chiefs defense is lucky it didn't give up 31 points in January. Stopping teams in the red zone is not a sustainable skill. If it was, you could stop them before a three yard gain scores a TD. You don't decide to start stopping teams once they get inside the 20. Sure, you can scheme to prevent big plays, but aside from that, you're just hoping the offense doesn't execute near the goal line, and if Todd Haley wasn't a terrible OC down by the goal line, Pittsburgh would have put both games away much sooner.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The Chiefs defense is lucky it didn't give up 31 points in January. Stopping teams in the red zone is not a sustainable skill.

Over the last 23 games it certainly appears to be with this unit.

It's literally the only thing they do really well, and the Chiefs have won a ton of games because of it.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I sure as **** don't want to see Pittsburgh in the playoffs. This organization shits its pants every chance they get against them.

Literally.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Over the last 23 games it certainly appears to be with this unit.

It's literally the only thing they do really well, and the Chiefs have won a ton of games because of it.

The Chiefs have won a ton of games because you can win a ton of games in a mediocre league if you don't beat yourself. You also can't beat elite teams playing at a high level that way.

You're actually making an argument for Alex Smith right now. He is the QB version of "bend-but-don't-break".

And it is not sustainable:

"The same is true for defenses, which appear to be even more random from year to year than offenses -- correlations across the board are lower. Just 30.8 percent of a team's points allowed rank can be explained by its rank in points allowed per red zone trip. And 7.4 percent of a team's points allowed rank is explained by its rank last year. The red zone year-on-year comparison accounts for just 2.4 percent of performance. It's almost entirely random."

http://cdn.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/p...ns-2016-season

[Mav]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'm at my maddest at Alex Smith when he doesn't take chances. It was a bad game for him. But he's not usually that wildly inaccurate. On most games, those are completions. I'd rather that than chances he doesn't take. Alex deserves a lot of blame for losing this but I'm generally not worried about this type of Alex Smith being a regular thing. He made a few errant throws, but putting us in any position at all to win the game at all was superhuman given what we had.

This is the most rational and logical approach. Did anyone expect the Chiefs to go undefeated? For as poorly as the Chiefs and Alex in particular played they managed to lose by 6 and that's with Andy Reid making the goofiest call I've ever seen at the nfl level.


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[Mav]

That being said, ALEX HAS TO HIT Robinson. Inexcusable to throw that ball out of bounds. Anywhere In bounds and that's a td.


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[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Over the last 23 games it certainly appears to be with this unit.

It's literally the only thing they do really well, and the Chiefs have won a ton of games because of it.

Through every team playing at least 4 games this season, the average points scored by a team is 21.9. Last year and the year before that the average was 22.8.

It's pretty interesting to see the defense get pigeonholed for losses when they are by the simplest definition performing at an above-average level.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Here's more:

The poster boy for all of this would be the Legion of Boom in Seattle. The Seahawks have retained many of their stars on defense, but their red zone performance has oscillated wildly. In 2013, the Seahawks allowed the league's fewest points per possession and kept up their historic dominance inside the 20, allowing the fewest points per red zone trip. In 2014, they were second in points allowed per possession ... but fell all the way to 30th in points allowed per red zone trip, maintaining their high ranking in overall performance by keeping teams from reaching the red zone. And then last year, the Seahawks were consistent as can be, finishing fourth in both points allowed per possession and points allowed per red zone trip.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Mav

That being said, ALEX HAS TO HIT Robinson. Inexcusable to throw that ball out of bounds. Anywhere In bounds and that's a td.


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At least he was running to his weak side and being chased. If this was a playoff game that last throw to Robinson might lead Smith to suicide.

[Ragged Robin]

it's one game dawgs, chill yer berries, didn't expect to go undefeated this season anyway

Steelers were always a bad matchup

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The Chiefs defense is lucky it didn't give up 31 points in January. Stopping teams in the red zone is not a sustainable skill. If it was, you could stop them before a three yard gain scores a TD. You don't decide to start stopping teams once they get inside the 20. Sure, you can scheme to prevent big plays, but aside from that, you're just hoping the offense doesn't execute near the goal line, and if Todd Haley wasn't a terrible OC down by the goal line, Pittsburgh would have put both games away much sooner.

This post doesn't jive with any known made up sports narrative that would allow me to sleep tonight, cannot compute.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina

Would have been dumb to not go get your QBotF when Smith is long-traveled, abused, and will be 34 next season.

couldnt have said this better

mahomes 2018

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No NFL defense schemes to allow 200 yards on the ground and lose the TOP by almost 2:1.

you are better than this moronic drivel

the chiefs offense not getting a first down in the 1st half was not a factor in the TOP? WE STOPPED THEM FROM SCORING. How in gods name do you assign the TOP blame to the defense when the offense doesnt make a 1st down? The TOP is on the offense....the offense could not do shit with the ball.....

the defense didnt work?

come on

we held them scorless most of the second half...the defense did what was asked of them. The defense did enough for us to win that game. period. full stop.

the bend not break worked...they punched themselves out....we had the chance to KO them

be honest dude

pitt offense scored 17 points...thats acceptable.... the net 11 points the chiefs offense scored...NOT