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Old 06-22-2017, 02:12 PM  
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Dorsey gone?
Per 610.

The ****?
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:15 AM   #1726
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Dead money or not...he has built what many think is the best roster in th NFL.

They could be the Browns and have $40 million is space....

They haven't been forced to cut anyone that was performing...
He's right you know.
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:23 AM   #1727
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Could Dorsey be the reasoning why Mahomes isn't signed yet? Maybe he was ****ing that up too.
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:24 AM   #1728
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Just throwing this theory out there. I know Terez article came out and said Dorsey just did things without telling people. Anyone think Dorsey Cut Maclin behind Reid's back?
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:28 AM   #1729
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Dead money or not...he has built what many think is the best roster in th NFL.

They could be the Browns and have $40 million is space....

They haven't been forced to cut anyone that was performing...
Wait, on one hand we have "the best roster in the NFL" yet on the other hand we are no closer to a Super Bowl than we were back in the Carl days because of critical flaws to the roster, with Carl wanting to build the "best 53, not the best 11". Still starting a middling SF backup, still have no big play WR's, still have RBBC, still can't stop the run or rush the passer in the playoffs.

So Clark can't win either way. He sticks with the guy, we have to make a bunch of cuts next year, have no first round pick, are starting a first time QB, and are no closer to a Super Bowl, and he's just satisfied with filling seats. He gets rid of the guy, and he's "embarrassing" the team.

Clark did not make this move because he has no idea what he is doing. There was probably either a serious issue with Dorsey behind the scenes that led to this, or this was Clark making a decision between Dorsey or Reid (and Reid has done that before in Philly, so it is a possibility). And if it was the latter, Clark was correct in choosing Reid...
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:28 AM   #1730
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The Hunts are why we have a 50 year title drought. Failure at the ownership level.
It's not quite 50 years and at least the Chiefs HAVE a Super Bowl title (and two appearances).

These 14 franchises have zero Super Bowl victories:

Buffalo
Arizona/St. Louis Cardinals
Atlanta
Carolina
Cincinnati
Cleveland
Detroit
Houston Texans
Houston Oilers
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That's nearly HALF the NFL that don't have a Super Bowl victory. Is that because all of their owners are garbage, too?
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:30 AM   #1731
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That's the thing, as bad as the cap has supposedly been, it hasn't stopped them from bringing in whoever they want.
Except for Emmanuel Sanders.

Sign him and there's far more cap space and no need for Jeremy Maclin.

Dorsey screwed the pooch on that deal.
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:34 AM   #1732
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Except for Emmanuel Sanders.

Sign him and there's far more cap space and no need for Jeremy Maclin.

Dorsey screwed the pooch on that deal.
How do you know that? We don't know exactly what happened but we know playing with Manning was a lot more enticing than playing with Smith.

I take it Dorsey could not sign Sanders but he had identified him as a player on the rise and he was proven right. It was the same with Casey Heyward.
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:37 AM   #1733
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The Broncos tampered on the Sanders signing, but it doesn't matter. He wasn't tough enough to be a Chief anyway.
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:39 AM   #1734
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Except for Emmanuel Sanders.

Sign him and there's far more cap space and no need for Jeremy Maclin.

Dorsey screwed the pooch on that deal.
How's that Dorsey's fault?

He thought he had Sanders signed and the Broncos came in and stole him away with promises of big #'s playing with Peyton. There's nothing he could've done about that.
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:39 AM   #1735
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Except for Emmanuel Sanders.

Sign him and there's far more cap space and no need for Jeremy Maclin.

Dorsey screwed the pooch on that deal.
That's not true...they had him all but signed. It was a dick move by Denver...and Sanders proved to be a quality WR.

So Dorsey was...again...correct on his player evaluation.

They were pretty pissed off about it...if I remember correctly.
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:41 AM   #1736
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How's that Dorsey's fault?

He thought he had Sanders signed and the Broncos came in and stole him away with promises of big #'s playing with Peyton. There's nothing he could've done about that.
Dorsey should have locked him up, period. Instead, he got played.
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:43 AM   #1737
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Dorsey should have locked him up, period. Instead, he got played.
I think that's a bit unfair dude. He couldn't control Sanders, his agent, and the Broncos actions.
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Dorsey should have locked him up, period. Instead, he got played.
No..the opportunity to play with Manning made it happen. He has been notorious for inflating a WR's numbers. It was a smart play by Sanders agent that made him millions.

I really cant blame him...I CAN blame Horseface for being an underhanded twat.
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:46 AM   #1739
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Just throwing this theory out there. I know Terez article came out and said Dorsey just did things without telling people. Anyone think Dorsey Cut Maclin behind Reid's back?
Probably informed Andy by voicemail.

"Hey, Big Red, it's Dorse. Just wanted to let you know Jeremy won't be in camp tomorrow. Or the next day. Or ..."
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:51 AM   #1740
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Probably informed Andy by voicemail.

"Hey, Big Red, it's Dorse. Just wanted to let you know Jeremy won't be in camp tomorrow. Or the next day. Or ..."
Even if that were the case....I dont think that is grounds for firing. Word was they had been shopping him for a while.

Reid knew he was on the out...he was just playing good cop.
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