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Old 06-02-2017, 05:36 PM  
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Old 06-04-2017, 07:33 AM   #706
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Maclin's departure is not the end of the world and KC isn't tanking for next year. 16-1700 yards in 2 years isn't irreplaceable. There's probably 40 guys a year that that gain 850+ yards a year and if you look at last year only 80+ guys would get that 5-600 yard production. It is very realistic to believe that several guys on the roster can get that 5-600 yards of last year and adding 150-200 yards (an extra catch or 2 a game) for Reek and Kelce or Conley or Wilson is possible/probable as well. That level of production isn't worth 10 MILLION dollars and isn't spending your money wisely. It's nice to see a GM who looks for value as well as performance.
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Old 06-04-2017, 07:52 AM   #707
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You mean the narrative that Alex Smith is frustrating because he clearly has shown he is capable of these kind plays but doesn't have the balls to make them consistently.
Seriously.


Alex Smith, once or twice a season, will put together ONE HALF of football that reminds you why he was such a great prospect.

I don't expect him to be amazing every snap, but when he does put together a really high level half of football it usually precedes or follows a terrible half of QB play. He'll throw for 72 yards in a first half, and then 220 yards in a second half. Or he'll throw 180 yards and 2 TD's in the first half and finish it with a whimpering 68 yard 1 INT second half.

And those are his good games.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:09 AM   #708
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You don't watch many Pats games do you? They are known for taking the best player out of the game.

2 safeties allow a DC to bracket both guys if they want, depends on what they are showing at the LOS. It is not like kc can spread teams out and kill them with speed, they will spread teams out to get the short basketball type pass and hope for YAC but need perfect blocking to pop anything big downfield.

Plus there are going to be times where both guys will need a breather and at least one is going to be off the field.

Imagine having to face an O of 2-3 no named WR's and Kelce or reek and your backup TE. Suddenly gets very easy to double.

Now if you still had Macklin then you have DC's in trouble.
Maclin had a little over 500 yards last season, dumb shit.

He was hardly ever a deciding factor and never the Defense's main concern.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:12 AM   #709
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But Smith can't make reads!
LOL

Let one of those D-linemen get the slightest push and watch where his eyes go then..
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:22 AM   #710
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Is our #2 WR even going to be a top 3 target in this offense? 4th option?

Clearly Kelce is the top target followed by Hill. After that is Ware/Hunt and with Alex's penchant for targeting TE's it wouldn't surprise me if Escobar was the 4th target.

So it's very possible that Conley is our 5th option on offense with Alex.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:26 AM   #711
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Moreover, according to The Star’s Terez Paylor, “salary cap expert Joel Corry says the Chiefs’ top three 2017 draft picks — quarterback Patrick Mahomes II, defensive end Tanoh Kpassagnon and running back Kareem Hunt — should take up approximately $4.4 million in 2017 cap space.” All three remain unsigned.
Maclins underperformance combined with the above = see you later.

If it was simply a matter of performance alone and not a need for salary relief they would have let him go to camp before cutting him.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:30 AM   #712
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You mean the narrative that Alex Smith is frustrating because he clearly has shown he is capable of these kind plays but doesn't have the balls to make them consistently.
Bingo.


It's mind numbing. We know he can make great throws, but he chooses not to, even when faced with elimination.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:40 AM   #713
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The 2015 Maclin would be a big asset this season. The 2016 version? Not so much. After 2015, I would have said Maclin (as many posters on here did) may be the most irreplaceable piece on offense. Flash forward to Hill's arrival and Kelce's continued rise, along with Maclin's injury and disinterest in 2016...we all should have seen this as a strong possibility.

You got to think Maclin's mini-camp performance and/or another WR's emergence played into this decision as well. Otherwise, he would have been released earlier this offseason like Charles was.

Here's hoping Conley, Robinson, Chessen, etc. can surprise this year.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:47 AM   #714
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The 2015 Maclin would be a big asset this season. The 2016 version? Not so much. After 2015, I would have said Maclin (as many posters on here did) may be the most irreplaceable piece on offense. Flash forward to Hill's arrival and Kelce's continued rise, along with Maclin's injury and disinterest in 2016...we all should have seen this as a strong possibility.

You got to think Maclin's mini-camp performance and/or another WR's emergence played into this decision as well. Otherwise, he would have been released earlier this offseason like Charles was.

Here's hoping Conley, Robinson, Chessen, etc. can surprise this year.
I even agreed with Tiger when it came to Maclin this past season until the broke dick proved us wrong. I thought Maclin's return would give the offense a boost needed, instead he shit on the faces of the offense and provided virtually nothing.

Glad he's gone. Bye.
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:34 AM   #715
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KC rarely lines up with 4 WRs on the field and Hill/Conley showed ability to be players in 2016 that are ascending.

Kelce might be the best TE in the game (if Gronk back is fukd)

Hunt is going to be a lot better than most here think.

The OL is together the next 2 years minimum and is ascending.

Albert Wilson is playing for a new deal in KC or elsewhere (I prefer elsewhere but I digress)


For this offense to take a big step forward, it needs just 1 of Chesson, Robinson or someone else to step up and give us some ability to make plays and Robinson seems to have worked hard for the opportunity to get on the field and show he can be that guy.
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Seriously.


Alex Smith, once or twice a season, will put together ONE HALF of football that reminds you why he was such a great prospect.

I don't expect him to be amazing every snap, but when he does put together a really high level half of football it usually precedes or follows a terrible half of QB play. He'll throw for 72 yards in a first half, and then 220 yards in a second half. Or he'll throw 180 yards and 2 TD's in the first half and finish it with a whimpering 68 yard 1 INT second half.

And those are his good games.
most quarterbacks aren't achieving their 250 yards/game with an even distribution of yards and touchdowns amongst all 4 quarters. There is an ebb and flow to it, a lot depending on the circumstance of the game and what the Coach wants.
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Old 06-04-2017, 10:03 AM   #717
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Wow, after reading all of this I almost feel better about the Royals. Wait, no I don't.

Shocking? Yes. Unexpected? Maybe. End of the world? Never.

Players come and go. Young players emerge and step up or are replaced. Older players get injured, don't produce and are let go. Just like the climate, the only constant in sports is change.

I look forward to football season EVERY year, doesn't matter who the players are on the field. I am a CHIEFS fan. That means I want every player to play well and the team to win.

How does a thread about Maclin being cut for cap/production/who knows get turned into an Alex Smith debate? Yeah, he isn't Tom Brady and our coach isn't Belicheat however this is our team and I am going to do my best to enjoy every minute of football.

At least, that's my plan.

Go Chiefs.
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For this offense to take a big step forward, it needs Mahomes
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More important than WR 3 may be who is going to be TE#2??

He surely won't drop more passes than Harris did last year, I would hope.
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You're the moron who said no QB was worth drafting in the first round.

Flip flop, much?
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