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Old 04-11-2017, 07:46 PM  
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So it begins..Browns might take Trubisky 1st overall?
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Just had an NFL exec tell me, "Don't be surprised if Myles Garrett isn't the No. 1 pick." Exec convinced a QB is in discussion at No. 1.

Trubisky, Watson and Mahomes will all be gone by pick 13.
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:55 PM   #316
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Lamar Jackson completed 54.7% of his passes in 2015 and 56.2% last year. That's horrific. Not to mention that he has a frail 200 lb body like Bridgewater.

He got a ton of pub for throwing 6 TD's...on the Charlotte 49ers
Good thing no one's talking about drafting him. He's a fringe candidate if he improves massively.
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:56 PM   #317
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If any of those underclassmen tear their ACL at the beginning of the year, or have a really disappointing season, they're going back to school. That's a pretty big ****ing gamble. Especially considering that we don't even know if we'll have a shot.
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Old 04-14-2017, 02:00 PM   #318
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I don't know what you're trying to go for with this "desperation" narrative, but it's bizarre and kind of stupid. Not one person is advocating QB no matter ****ing what
You will be screaming bloody murder if the Chiefs pass on Mahomes at #27.
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Old 04-14-2017, 02:00 PM   #319
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Do yourself a favour:

Go watch Mahomes 2015 tape.

Then, watch 3-4 game tapes from 2016. MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT. The young man still needs a lot of refinement though.

The experience the kids will get in 2017 leading up to the 2018 draft will be invaluable. The 2018 class will be deeper overall because they will have garnered more overall experience as starters. You cannot say that about Trubisky, Kizer or Webb.

The point is the Chiefs will get a qb this year or next. What will detrrmine that is who they see as a fit and the prohibitive costs associated with that.
Until that happens it means nothing. People are pimping these guys right now as if they will automatically be awesome. They could just as easily go the way of Matt Barkley. Hell Brad Kaaya was talked about as a potential top QB this time last year.

The QB's this year aren't ready and that's fine. Nobody wants them to play the first year and that's what makes it a great draft for the Chiefs.
You're leaving out the part about the QB we would draft getting elite professional coaching for an entire year from one of the best QB coaches in the league.

Take out Darnold and Browning and right now you have the same thing as this years crop: prospects with tools to succeed that need to be developed.
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Maybe, just maybe, he has enough faith in Dorsey to trust him with whatever QB he decides on.
Does he have faith if Dorsey decides to pass on the QBs?
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You will be screaming bloody murder if the Chiefs pass on Mahomes at #27.
It depends who they draft at #27

If it's Christian McCaffery, you can bet your Dove body bar-coated ass I'm going to go on a tirade.
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If we miss out on Trubisky or Kizer, the next guys on my wish list are Barnett and Watt.

I don't know what you're trying to go for with this "desperation" narrative, but it's bizarre and kind of stupid. Not one person is advocating QB no matter ****ing what
We do you guys think so little of Watson?

too close to Alex Smith?
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And if he does, it's because he's going #1. So, I really don't understand the fascination with next years class. Mason Rudolph and Luke Falk are more of the same.
Falks are guy his ahort yardage throws are money.
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We do you guys think so little of Watson?

too close to Alex Smith?
Probably because Watson has an average arm, at best, and was pretty inconsistent last year.
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Does he have faith if Dorsey decides to pass on the QBs?
Johnny Football and Paxton Lynch, asshole.

However, I was pretty ****ing pissed when we took Ford instead of Bridgewater or Carr.

Didn't give a shit about anybody else in the middle or late rounds in Dorsey's tenure. I did think Aaron Murray was a great pick at the time, and I hated Kevin Hogan.

You just can't stand the thought that people who strongly advocate for taking a QB are still selective when it comes to the options the Chiefs have.
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We do you guys think so little of Watson?

too close to Alex Smith?
He's got the arm strength of Chad Pennington without the laser accuracy. That's just my opinion, though. Again, I know nothing about coaching QBs. If Andy Reid thinks those flaws aren't that big of a deal, or that he can coach Watson to throw with a bit more velocity, then I'll applaud him if he drafts Watson.
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Johnny Football and Paxton Lynch, asshole.

However, I was pretty ****ing pissed when we took Ford instead of Bridgewater or Carr.

Didn't give a shit about anybody else in the middle or late rounds in Dorsey's tenure. I did think Aaron Murray was a great pick at the time, and I hated Kevin Hogan.

You just can't stand the thought that people who strongly advocate for taking a QB are still selective when it comes to the options the Chiefs have.
I wanted Carr over Ford, not Bridgewater though.

Nah, I just can't stand people who love hyping up and getting excited over C-level, day 2-3 QB prospects just because they want a 1st round rookie QB over anything else.
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I wanted Carr over Ford, not Bridgewater though.

Nah, I just can't stand people who love hyping up and getting excited over C-level, day 2-3 QB prospects just because they want a 1st round rookie QB over anything else.
The top 4 guys the Chiefs could get all need time on the bench. They can't be rushed out there too quickly.

I think Trubisky and Kizer are the dudes who have a decent shot at becoming good pros if they are given a slow entry to the NFL.

Mahomes is a mystery to me. I really have no clue about him. Again, if Dorsey and Reid think they know him will enough and they draft him, I'll trust them.

I don't think Watson will stick in the NFL. His intangibles and leadership that people are talking about are the same obsessions folks had with Tebow at the expense of some pretty glaring flaws. Watson is different. He knows how to actually throw a goddamn football. He's faster athletically, and I also think he's smarter. But I don't think he has the arm to make it work.

And I've seen nothing of Davis Webb that convinces me he'll be anything more than just a dude. He seems like the kind of QB that the Jets or Buffalo drafts from time to time and just never cracks the depth chart beyond backup. He eventually washes out of the NFL having done nothing more than a bit of spot duty.

That's my assessment. I'm not desperate for C level prospects. I see an opportunity with four guys, and I see two of them that I really like. And if Dorsey and Reid likes one of them, I'd much rather they pull the trigger now than try to navigate through 2018 and possibly be put in a position where they REALLY have to reach for a putrid prospect.

Again, if I'm running the show, and Trubisky and Kizer are gone, but Barnett or Watt are still on the board at 27, I'm drafting them over Mahomes or Watson.

How you can possibly paint that as "desperation" like Clay is doing or accuse me of not really being informed about 2017's QBs is beyond me.
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