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Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
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MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?

Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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Old 02-20-2017, 10:34 AM   #1261
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Says the man with Alex Smith Forever!! In red in his sig.
It's meant as joke. It's time or a change.
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Old 02-20-2017, 10:52 AM   #1262
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I read that garbage article on AP of that Seth dude MNChiefswhatever big long defense of Maclin and trying to make Smith look bad with his terrible twitter video clips.

I'm not exactly a homer in support of Alex but that article was the biggest garbage joke of journalism I have ever seen, and it actually upsets me that I cheer for a team with fans like that allowed to write articles on a Chiefs blog sponsored by a big company. His argument couldn't have been more terrible and the clips he used showed his complete lack of actual football knowledge and displayed his entire slant and agenda for trying to blame the QB, which yes is sometimes the case, but not for the case he was trying to make.

I'm of the camp that the Alex Smith gets the blame for everything has shifted to a far extreme and he's the easy scapegoat for any little negative you want to pluck out of a 12-4 team with a home field playoff loss. I guess rightfully so, but it's still a weak argument now. For me to hop on the blame Alex bandwagon again he would have to fully regress in 2017 to point where the FO takes the blame for holding onto him too long and the fans look right. But the fans aren't always right and I don't think they will be right here, either.
Werent you saying just a week or so ago that you'd take Foles 8 days a week at this point over Smiff?
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Old 02-20-2017, 11:11 AM   #1263
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Old 02-20-2017, 02:06 PM   #1264
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Werent you saying just a week or so ago that you'd take Foles 8 days a week at this point over Smiff?
I was definitely of the camp of veteran QB + rookie QB of any combo over Smith yes. So if it was Foles/Mahomes or any combination. Mainly because it would have also given cap relief. 17 million is still 17 million too much for 15 touchdown passes and 3,000 yards no matter how you slice it.
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Old 02-20-2017, 02:32 PM   #1265
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Cool story. Many teams are paying 23+ million for far less wins
Smith's cap hit for 2017 ranks as only the 18th highest.
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Old 02-20-2017, 02:35 PM   #1266
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Cool story. Many teams are paying 23+ million for far less wins
Smith's cap hit for 2017 ranks as only the 18th highest.
While his touchdown production is last among starters, what a deal!
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Old 02-20-2017, 02:38 PM   #1267
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While his touchdown production is last among starters, what a deal!
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Old 02-20-2017, 02:52 PM   #1268
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Cool story. Many teams are paying 23+ million for far less wins
Smith's cap hit for 2017 ranks as only the 18th highest.
Too bad Alex isn't the reason for all of those wins. How many fourth quarter come from behind wins does he have? How many times does he bring them back from being down multiple scores? If Alex doesn't get an early lead or help with defensive and special team scores then he is as useless as tits on a bull.
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Old 02-20-2017, 02:57 PM   #1269
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He's the only quarterback that I've ever seen that is afraid to throw a hail mary pass because it might get intercepted!
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Old 02-20-2017, 03:02 PM   #1270
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He's the only quarterback that I've ever seen that is afraid to throw a hail mary pass because it might get intercepted!
Got to keep that QBR up, bro.
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Old 02-20-2017, 03:07 PM   #1271
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What a waste of a 1200+ post thread.

Every team should move on from a QB that does not have a franchise,elite QB.

That means what that 20-ish teams are training one or should be 'moving on' from their QB.

Brady
Rodger
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Brees
Wilson
Stafford
Rivers
Ryan
Manning

I realize even a few on this list are debatable, but the franchise that they are on believe they are a franchise type QB. Some on this list are aging and even these teams should be looking for a guy to develop.

It's not a question about 'Should the Chiefs be moving on" but rather how they should be moving on. Same goes for many other NFL teams.


I guess it's the offseason so people needs someplace to take a verbal shit.
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Old 02-20-2017, 03:14 PM   #1272
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Too bad Alex isn't the reason for all of those wins. How many fourth quarter come from behind wins does he have? How many times does he bring them back from being down multiple scores? If Alex doesn't get an early lead or help with defensive and special team scores then he is as useless as tits on a bull.
He doesn't get all the credit but his winning record for 6 straight seasons in the National Football League playing the most important position is enough reason for you to accept that he's the guy in 2017 and possibly 2018.

Don't like it? Stop watching.
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Old 02-20-2017, 03:46 PM   #1274
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He doesn't get all the credit but his winning record for 6 straight seasons in the National Football League playing the most important position is enough reason for you to accept that he's the guy in 2017 and possibly 2018.

Don't like it? Stop watching.
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Old 02-20-2017, 03:53 PM   #1275
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Too bad Alex isn't the reason for all of those wins. How many fourth quarter come from behind wins does he have? How many times does he bring them back from being down multiple scores? If Alex doesn't get an early lead or help with defensive and special team scores then he is as useless as tits on a bull.
Almost every multiple score comeback is aided by other parts of the team. You need the defense to get stops and probably a turnover. The Patriots were really helped by getting a timely turnover in the SB. All that said, Smith isn't the QB you want to bring a team back, and I'm not sure he's the best option going forward. But he's been a large part of the team's success.
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