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Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
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MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?

Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
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Old 02-02-2017, 08:35 AM   #1111
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i watched a whole 3 minutes of college football this year. the last three of the championship game, and i was not impressed with either quarterback. i will mark them both as busts until i see otherwise
3 minute evaluation huh? That's Jr Drafturbator level BS right there. What's next? Evaluating players off YouTube reels?
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Old 02-02-2017, 08:43 AM   #1112
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With that said, Tigger has zero credibility because he's the type of guy who will grasp for any excuse why the Chiefs shouldn't draft a quarterback every year.
Except I predicted we would draft Hogan as a project as a low risk last year
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Old 02-02-2017, 08:44 AM   #1113
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I might **** with people in the draft forum about shit and say stuff like "might take a flier round 2," but I'm going to say this very seriously just for Tiger: Deshaun Watson will go top 6.

He's a better pro prospect than Cam Newton was coming out. He throws with better accuracy and touch and has the same movement ability. He has more experience than Cam did against top competition.

If you think Watson is going 3rd round, you're ****ing nuts. 100% Troll Quality Nuts.
He's not Cam Newton but he'll probably be better than Manziel and Geno. Not exactly great company.
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Old 02-02-2017, 08:45 AM   #1114
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It is good to know that your posts are not in touch with reality in general, not just in relation to Smith.

Watson in the third. LMFAO.
Well we'll see who's right in 2 years where his true value falls. People were drooling over Lynch in the 1st round, and how has he turned out so far?

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Old 02-02-2017, 08:48 AM   #1115
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Lynch is an abomination. Was so cool to let the mule toolers know just how bad he was in camp last year too Of course spambotmo2724 had 125 twatter references from hacks spinning sunshine bullshit.
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Old 02-02-2017, 09:25 AM   #1116
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I actually agree with Tigger for once. Watson is too much of a project, IMO, to go in the first round. He has no experience in a pro-style system where he has to read the whole defense. His accuracy and decision making have been very inconsistent. He does have all the intangibles that everyone drools over in a quarterback: he's a winner, he's a leader, he plays better in big games and the fourth quarter. But that's not quite enough to make up for what he's currently lacking in the basics of how to play the position at this level.

With that said, Tigger has zero credibility because he's the type of guy who will grasp for any excuse why the Chiefs shouldn't draft a quarterback every year.
Why do you think accuracy is a big issue? He's thrown 67% completion % all three years. Pretty much the same as Mariotta in college.

"Overall, Watson was accurate on 47.5 percent of his deep targets, throwing for 1,196 yards and 18 touchdowns on passes of 20-plus yards. Only Bowling Green’s Matt Johnson found paydirt on more occasions in 2015. Watson was a little aggressive on occasion, throwing seven picks on deep targets, but he made many more positive plays than mistakes, especially late in the year." (From PFF last year).

I'm not claiming to be a Watson or QB expert, I'm just trying to compare him to recent QB's who came out and how they are transitioning in the NFL.
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Old 02-02-2017, 09:40 AM   #1117
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Most NFL personnel men have a 3rd round grade on Watson, and it's easy to see why.... 1/2 field reads, deep ball floats, frame concerns, etc.....

I personally don't want him in KC.
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Old 02-02-2017, 09:44 AM   #1118
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Except I predicted we would draft Hogan as a project as a low risk last year
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Old 02-02-2017, 10:06 AM   #1119
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IF CP calls a QB a bust, then he is most likely a must take...

This place couldn't identify QB talent if it tried.... All it knows is franchise game managing rejects from other teams...

Watson has more talent in the corn in his shit than Smith or any other tool this place has sucked off over the years...
Watch Watson get drafted by some shit organization like the Browns... have an awful rookie season, and then all of the True Fans will be all over CP claiming, "See! I told you he wasn't going to be good... this is why the Chiefs shouldn't draft a QB!" - lol
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Old 02-02-2017, 10:11 AM   #1120
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Watch Watson get drafted by some shit organization like the Browns... have an awful rookie season, and then all of the True Fans will be all over CP claiming, "See! I told you he wasn't going to be good... this is why the Chiefs shouldn't draft a QB!" - lol
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Old 02-02-2017, 10:43 AM   #1121
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Saying it's hard to pass on someone if he's there is not the same as predicting a draft pick. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if in that little world you live in with your Boo, Alex, a vague reference would be considered concrete evidence.
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Old 02-02-2017, 11:40 AM   #1123
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Well we'll see who's right in 2 years where his true value falls. People were drooling over Lynch in the 1st round, and how has he turned out so far?

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If you weren't a trolling reerun I might would agree with you on some things such as this.

Too bad you're too ****ing stupid and arrogant to be worth much more than a blip of time, so here it is:

I said Watson will go top 6 because he was very accurate in college and far better than Cam Newton in college. Cam Newton still went #1 didn't he? You smart ****er you.

As for pro projection of Watson, I see him about how I see Cam: A below average QB that's over-hyped.

The problem with you is that you can't differentiate two entirely different topics of discussion. Where he gets drafted versus his overall projection are two entirely different things. Teams reach on QBs every single ****ing year and Watson was successful, throws the ball pretty damn well, and was accurate. A team is going to take that, run with it, and see if they can teach him the rest.
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Old 02-02-2017, 05:57 PM   #1124
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If you weren't a trolling reerun I might would agree with you on some things such as this.

Too bad you're too ****ing stupid and arrogant to be worth much more than a blip of time, so here it is:

I said Watson will go top 6 because he was very accurate in college and far better than Cam Newton in college. Cam Newton still went #1 didn't he? You smart ****er you.

As for pro projection of Watson, I see him about how I see Cam: A below average QB that's over-hyped.

The problem with you is that you can't differentiate two entirely different topics of discussion. Where he gets drafted versus his overall projection are two entirely different things. Teams reach on QBs every single ****ing year and Watson was successful, throws the ball pretty damn well, and was accurate. A team is going to take that, run with it, and see if they can teach him the rest.
Kid, quit being a douchebag. And quit stalking me.

Your football takes are garbage. I have yet to see anyone compliment you on your takes, predictions, analysis. Absolutely none.
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Kid, quit being a douchebag. And quit stalking me.

Your football takes are garbage. I have yet to see anyone compliment you on your takes, predictions, analysis. Absolutely none.
I like his takes. His insight is infinitely more interesting and helpful than any bullshit you post.
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