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Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
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MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?
Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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Old 01-24-2017, 11:17 AM   #781
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He deserves a ton of credit dude, but we've peaked with Alex.

What if Andy stays with Alex and Foles next year?
That's on Andy the GM, not Andy the game day coach. Let's not pretend like Dorsey has say over the QB.
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Old 01-24-2017, 11:18 AM   #782
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He deserves a ton of credit dude, but we've peaked with Alex.

What if Andy stays with Alex and Foles next year?
They will make the playoffs again.
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Old 01-24-2017, 11:20 AM   #783
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They will make the playoffs again.
Depends on what Denver does in the off season and Carr's health IMO.
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Old 01-24-2017, 11:47 AM   #784
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Said coach took over a 2-14 and led them to 4 straight winning seasons. Todd Haley doesn't take the trash Dorsey finds and turns them into good players. Give Reid some credit folks.
He's great at keeping the team competitive. Just like Marvin Lewis. No sense of urgency in the 4th quarter against Pitt. KC needed its timeouts, did they have them at the end?

He doesn't get a free pass because Smith isn't elite. He picked him and refused to have any open competition to push Smith.
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:07 PM   #785
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And that is why so many people were critical even during the very good season we had. It wasn't about not being able to enjoy it. It was about enjoying it and still seeing the issue that was looming in the playoffs against a good team. The concern was that if we didn't play well everywhere on the roster that we were going to have a difficult time winning unless Smith came out of his shell.

Well "playoff Smith" didn't show up. Defensive TD's didn't show up. PIT kicked our ass on kickoffs. Our brilliant bend but don't break strategy not only cost us offensive snaps due to time of possession, but it also didn't give Hill a chance to return many punts. Pit didn't play that well, but they did force Smith to have to make plays.
Let's think about "Playoff Smith" for a second...

He's had two huge games in the playoffs.

Against defenses that I believe were ranked bottom 5 that season. (Saints, Colts)
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:36 PM   #786
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Keeping Smith would be a complete fail. Damn city should not buy tickets to watch that loser another season.
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:54 PM   #787
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Moving on from Smith doesn't have to be immediate. All that needs to happen is we have to make the PLAN to move away from Smith.

Just get the young guy this year. If we roll with Foles, I won't complain. If we roll with Smith, I won't complain. If we even go straight to the rookie I won't complain. But we've got to get the young guy of the future in here and we gotta get him in here now.
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:55 PM   #788
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Moving on from Smith doesn't have to be immediate. All that needs to happen is we have to make the PLAN to move away from Smith.

Just get the young guy this year. If we roll with Foles, I won't complain. If we roll with Smith, I won't complain. If we even go straight to the rookie I won't complain. But we've got to get the young guy of the future in here and we gotta get him in here now.
I'd rather roll with Foles. He may put up some more INTs....but he'll at least push the ball down the field.
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Old 01-24-2017, 01:22 PM   #789
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Keeping Smith would be a complete fail. Damn city should not buy tickets to watch that loser another season.
Fans are dumb. The Chiefs will keep Smith, and there will be plenty of fans hoodwinked by the perpetual hype, and the stadium will again be full and primed for another first round playoff loss.
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Fans are dumb. The Chiefs will keep Smith, and there will be plenty of fans hoodwinked by the perpetual hype, and the stadium will again be full and primed for another first round playoff loss.
People said the same thing about the Blues, until there were finally too many playoff losses to care anymore.

I think this one probably put a lot of people over the edge. Things will need to change or the fans won't come out in the same numbers as this season (and this season's turnout wasn't always stellar).
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I think this one probably put a lot of people over the edge. Things will need to change or the fans won't come out in the same numbers as this season (and this season's turnout wasn't always stellar).
More of a product of the team pricing out the fans than results on the field.

When it's perfect weather in September / early October and even the cheap seats are a little over 50% full, that's a sign that tickets are too expensive.
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More of a product of the team pricing out the fans than results on the field.

When it's perfect weather in September / early October and even the cheap seats are a little over 50% full, that's a sign that tickets are too expensive.
Well that and with technology changing all the time. I would rather be out camping or playing golf listening to game on NFL mobile than at the stadium with drunks...
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Stadium is too large for the market size for one. Arrowhead should be around 65k.
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Let's think about "Playoff Smith" for a second...

He's had two huge games in the playoffs.

Against defenses that I believe were ranked bottom 5 that season. (Saints, Colts)
The last two postseasons have effectively destroyed the "playoff Smith" moniker.

He's been average at best three playoff games in a row.
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Stadium is too large for the market size for one. Arrowhead should be around 65k.
Outside of Los Angeles, in which the stadium can be used for numerous events, new stadiums shouldn't seat more than 50k, IMO.

TV's just keep getting better and better, in addition to the fact that teams earn bread crumbs from stadium attendance when compared to TV contracts.
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