MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by gold_and_red

What if Dorsey drafts a QB with a high pick and Alex is still here?

Would rather have the guy willing to take the shots down the field in Foles, but if Alex is the bridge then so be it. I can live with watching him fail for another year while the future gets prepared.

[KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN]

Originally Posted by gold_and_red

What if Dorsey drafts a QB with a high pick and Alex is still here?

Then I will be playing more golf on Sunday's and I won't get indigestion watching Cassel II going fetal. That's a win win for me.

[gold_and_red]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

I think most of us could live with that. Sitting a bona fide prospect for a year or two would be the best scenario Chiefs fans have seen since the 80's. We need to draft and develop. If that means Alex at the helm for the next year or two, I can live with that.

Lot of variables here.

- Dorsey/Andy could see that Alex cannot take this team past the divisional round. So why waste a year of rookie sitting on the bench if this team is not even sniffing the AFCCG? Rest of the full strength team on paper looks good to get to 8-8 with a rookie.

- Based on the above if they decide that the rookie starts why have Smith as his backup and create a possible controversy if we start 1-5 or something?

- Dorsey could like the QB class of 2018 better, so same old non-productive offense with no hope in sight for the fans who are not privy to Dorsey's thinking.

- Rookie QB could light a fire in Alex, he could play lights out (Okay that is just wishful thinking).

If it were up to me I would force Andy to turn over playcalling and offensive management to a real OC and stick with Alex for 2017. Then draft a QB in 2018, which is supposed to be a much better class than 2017.

[Go Royals]

Originally Posted by gold_and_red

Lot of variables here.

- Dorsey/Andy could see that Alex cannot take this team past the divisional round. So why waste a year of rookie sitting on the bench if this team is not even sniffing the AFCCG? Rest of the full strength team on paper looks good to get to 8-8 with a rookie.

- Based on the above if they decide that the rookie starts why have Smith as his backup and create a possible controversy if we start 1-5 or something?

- Dorsey could like the QB class of 2018 better, so same old non-productive offense with no hope in sight for the fans who are not privy to Dorsey's thinking.

- Rookie QB could light a fire in Alex, he could play lights out (Okay that is just wishful thinking).

If it were up to me I would force Andy to turn over playcalling and offensive management to a real OC and stick with Alex for 2017. Then draft a QB in 2018, which is supposed to be a much better class than 2017.

Reid's playcalling has receivers running wide open all over the field.

"Wait till next year, better QBs" is what the Chiefs have been doing the last few decades

[gold_and_red]

Originally Posted by Go Royals

Reid's playcalling has receivers running wide open all over the field.

"Wait till next year, better QBs" is what the Chiefs have been doing the last few decades

Haven't receivers been running wide open for 4 years now? Why has Reid been waiting for next year every year now?

[dls6501]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I think most people agree that he's middle of the pack.

It's just so tough to gauge his contribution because his greatest strength is just not ****ing up.. But then you re-watch game film and see that by not ****ing up he's actually ****ing you over by leaving multiple big plays and points on the field.

Said this before, and will say it again.

Some people (Tigger), cannot process the fact that Alex Smith's mistakes arent the conventional mistakes a QB makes (such as throwing a pick six, throwing in interception during crunch time, etc).

Alex Smith mistakes are opting for a dump off when he has a receiver sprinting wide open down field. Alex Smith mistakes are bailing from a clean pocket right as a WR is breaking open.

While throwing interceptions can be critical, game changing mistakes, I would argue that missing a touchdown that a junior college QB would hit on can be just as backbreaking to a team. Alex demonstrated just that last weekend.

[Go Royals]

Originally Posted by gold_and_red

Haven't receivers been running wide open for 4 years now? Why has Reid been waiting for next year every year now?

They most certainly have. 2013 was the apex of Smiff's pathetic little career and once he signed his extension that offseason he was tied to the team a minimum of three years. If they had gotten rid of him any point before this offseason, they would've taken it in the turd cutter from his dead money.

Now is the time to draft a freakin quarterback.

[gold_and_red]

Originally Posted by dls6501

Said this before, and will say it again.

Some people (Tigger), cannot process the fact that Alex Smith's mistakes arent the conventional mistakes a QB makes (such as throwing a pick six, throwing in interception during crunch time, etc).

Alex Smith mistakes are opting for a dump off when he has a receiver sprinting wide open down field. Alex Smith mistakes are bailing from a clean pocket right as a WR is breaking open.

While throwing interceptions can be critical, game changing mistakes, I would argue that missing a touchdown that a junior college QB would hit on can be just as backbreaking to a team. Alex demonstrated just that last weekend.

Right! It is exactly why lot of Chiefs games remain close until the very last play. Many here have argued winning close games while expecting the D and ST to always make a play is not sustainable.

[Red Dawg]

Smith should be cut! We have seen the all 22 reviews for 4 years now it says he sucks. That is all that needs to be said. Give Foles his 10 mil, draft a QB early and let's get better.

[KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Smith should be cut! We have seen the all 22 reviews for 4 years now it says he sucks. That is all that needs to be said. Give Foles his 10 mil, draft a QB early and let's get better.

This times eleventy billion

[SuperBowl4]

Does the sun rise in the east and set in the west?

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Warrick

12-4 is so mediocre especially when some of your playmakers like Maclin who had a rough year, Conely who played like a 3rd string WR all year, and Alert Wilson (need I say anymore?). Kelce and Hill were the only bright spots on the team this year. Ware did his part, but he needs some more help. Not to mention, some key players hurt in the OL and a depleted DL and no ILBs worth mentioning at the end of the year. Cornerbacks finally got it together at the end of the year. Special teams was fantastic. But, who is to blame because the average fan above who mentioned we got him all these tools, but forgets to mention the players that were hurt... Alex Smith that's who! And some of you are so butt hurt that you can only point your finger at Alex Smith, as if he was the only player on that field who played against the Steelers that made a mistake? You're some of the same fans that predicted we'd go 8-8 this year or worse! You are some of the same people that drag this fan base down and are nothing, but whiny b*tches. Mellinger and you whiny b*tches should move on if you ask me! Quit your crying, put some pampers on if you can't wipe your own ass, and look at the bigger picture for a change! Bunch Alex Smith haters!

I agree that Ware needs help. He needs help from his QB. The pass that wasn't made to Hill is one prime example. That pass needs to fly, even if it is incomplete. Even the threat of a downfield passing game could lead to Ware being able to run it 25-30 times a game like the RB from the Steelers did for a buck-seventy.

[Chiefnj2]

Alex Smith is a job saver. Reid and Dorsey are in no danger of being fired or replaced or anything else when they have a team, including QB, who is getting them to the playoffs. That's why Marvin Lewis is still around.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Smith should be cut! We have seen the all 22 reviews for 4 years now it says he sucks. That is all that needs to be said. Give Foles his 10 mil, draft a QB early and let's get better.

So much this... yes, interceptions would go up under Foles

But so would chunk plays and touchdowns, give the guy a full offseason and camp as the starter and watch our underutilized stars like Hill, Kelce and Maclin blow up

He is in house, there would be no learning curve on the verbiage... he is the perfect bridge player for any potential rookie

I know I'm not the only one who noticed the difference in playcalling and/or decision making during his game and a half this year... sure, he misfired on some of those long throws, but at least he took those shots

And dont tell me about his time with Kelly, or those disgraceful Rams... think about him with permanent starter reps under Reids tutelage

Alas, I fear its all a fever dream anyway... they're gonna stick with one of the easiest to gameplan for QBs around next season, I'm sure of it

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Feb 2013 join date. Enough said.

The Alex cult