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Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
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MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?

Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:53 AM   #646
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If Alex is still a Chief after the draft then we know the problem lies higher up in the organization. Andy and Dorsey can't be that blind, they have to see what we see. If the situation doesn't get addressed after this past playoff performance then it's time to give up being a fan because somebody high up doesn't give a rat's ass.
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Old 01-23-2017, 12:02 PM   #647
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12-4 is so mediocre especially when some of your playmakers like Maclin who had a rough year, Conely who played like a 3rd string WR all year, and Alert Wilson (need I say anymore?). Kelce and Hill were the only bright spots on the team this year. Ware did his part, but he needs some more help. Not to mention, some key players hurt in the OL and a depleted DL and no ILBs worth mentioning at the end of the year. Cornerbacks finally got it together at the end of the year. Special teams was fantastic. But, who is to blame because the average fan above who mentioned we got him all these tools, but forgets to mention the players that were hurt... Alex Smith that's who! And some of you are so butt hurt that you can only point your finger at Alex Smith, as if he was the only player on that field who played against the Steelers that made a mistake? You're some of the same fans that predicted we'd go 8-8 this year or worse! You are some of the same people that drag this fan base down and are nothing, but whiny b*tches. Mellinger and you whiny b*tches should move on if you ask me! Quit your crying, put some pampers on if you can't wipe your own ass, and look at the bigger picture for a change! Bunch Alex Smith haters!
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Old 01-23-2017, 12:05 PM   #648
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Old 01-23-2017, 12:05 PM   #649
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Either you're trying to hard to troll, or you're too ****ing stupid to see that Alex Smith at his best isn't good enough to get it done.
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Old 01-23-2017, 12:19 PM   #650
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12-4 is so mediocre especially when some of your playmakers like Maclin who had a rough year, Conely who played like a 3rd string WR all year, and Alert Wilson (need I say anymore?). Kelce and Hill were the only bright spots on the team this year. Ware did his part, but he needs some more help. Not to mention, some key players hurt in the OL and a depleted DL and no ILBs worth mentioning at the end of the year. Cornerbacks finally got it together at the end of the year. Special teams was fantastic. But, who is to blame because the average fan above who mentioned we got him all these tools, but forgets to mention the players that were hurt... Alex Smith that's who! And some of you are so butt hurt that you can only point your finger at Alex Smith, as if he was the only player on that field who played against the Steelers that made a mistake? You're some of the same fans that predicted we'd go 8-8 this year or worse! You are some of the same people that drag this fan base down and are nothing, but whiny b*tches. Mellinger and you whiny b*tches should move on if you ask me! Quit your crying, put some pampers on if you can't wipe your own ass, and look at the bigger picture for a change! Bunch Alex Smith haters!
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Old 01-23-2017, 12:21 PM   #651
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12-4 is so mediocre especially when some of your playmakers like Maclin who had a rough year, Conely who played like a 3rd string WR all year, and Alert Wilson (need I say anymore?). Kelce and Hill were the only bright spots on the team this year. Ware did his part, but he needs some more help. Not to mention, some key players hurt in the OL and a depleted DL and no ILBs worth mentioning at the end of the year. Cornerbacks finally got it together at the end of the year. Special teams was fantastic. But, who is to blame because the average fan above who mentioned we got him all these tools, but forgets to mention the players that were hurt... Alex Smith that's who! And some of you are so butt hurt that you can only point your finger at Alex Smith, as if he was the only player on that field who played against the Steelers that made a mistake? You're some of the same fans that predicted we'd go 8-8 this year or worse! You are some of the same people that drag this fan base down and are nothing, but whiny b*tches. Mellinger and you whiny b*tches should move on if you ask me! Quit your crying, put some pampers on if you can't wipe your own ass, and look at the bigger picture for a change! Bunch Alex Smith haters!
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Old 01-23-2017, 12:22 PM   #652
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Yeah, Smith ran out of excuses this year.

He had as many weapons as anyone still standing and had some of the best pass protection of any QB in the league.

He's not going to get any better than the last 2 years. The most interesting part is that if you took some of those weapons away and gave him a worse OL, he probably wouldn't even get that much worse.

Smith's greatest strength is his ability to be mediocre even in bad situations. It's not something I'd have ever expected, really.

He should carry value to a team like the Browns, to be honest. He can bridge the gap in a march towards the middle (like he did for the Chiefs) and help paper over some shittyness on that roster. He's an odd duck in that he just pulls everything towards the middle. Bad roster - gets 7-9 to 9-7 results out of the offense. Great roster - gets 7-9 to 9-7 results out of the offense.

He's a good stepping stone QB and there really are some teams that could use that. But the Chiefs are no longer one of them, IMO. Time to figure out a new solution.
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Old 01-23-2017, 12:24 PM   #653
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If Alex is still a Chief after the draft then we know the problem lies higher up in the organization. Andy and Dorsey can't be that blind, they have to see what we see. If the situation doesn't get addressed after this past playoff performance then it's time to give up being a fan because somebody high up doesn't give a rat's ass.
What if Dorsey drafts a QB with a high pick and Alex is still here?
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12-4 is so mediocre especially when some of your playmakers like Maclin who had a rough year, Conely who played like a 3rd string WR all year, and Alert Wilson (need I say anymore?). Kelce and Hill were the only bright spots on the team this year. Ware did his part, but he needs some more help. Not to mention, some key players hurt in the OL and a depleted DL and no ILBs worth mentioning at the end of the year. Cornerbacks finally got it together at the end of the year. Special teams was fantastic. But, who is to blame because the average fan above who mentioned we got him all these tools, but forgets to mention the players that were hurt... Alex Smith that's who! And some of you are so butt hurt that you can only point your finger at Alex Smith, as if he was the only player on that field who played against the Steelers that made a mistake? You're some of the same fans that predicted we'd go 8-8 this year or worse! You are some of the same people that drag this fan base down and are nothing, but whiny b*tches. Mellinger and you whiny b*tches should move on if you ask me! Quit your crying, put some pampers on if you can't wipe your own ass, and look at the bigger picture for a change! Bunch Alex Smith haters!
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Old 01-23-2017, 12:25 PM   #655
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What if Dorsey drafts a QB with a high pick and Alex is still here?
We will have hope...
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What if Dorsey drafts a QB with a high pick and Alex is still here?
I think most of us could live with that. Sitting a bona fide prospect for a year or two would be the best scenario Chiefs fans have seen since the 80's. We need to draft and develop. If that means Alex at the helm for the next year or two, I can live with that.
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12-4 is so mediocre especially when some of your playmakers like Maclin who had a rough year, Conely who played like a 3rd string WR all year, and Alert Wilson (need I say anymore?). Kelce and Hill were the only bright spots on the team this year. Ware did his part, but he needs some more help. Not to mention, some key players hurt in the OL and a depleted DL and no ILBs worth mentioning at the end of the year. Cornerbacks finally got it together at the end of the year. Special teams was fantastic. But, who is to blame because the average fan above who mentioned we got him all these tools, but forgets to mention the players that were hurt... Alex Smith that's who! And some of you are so butt hurt that you can only point your finger at Alex Smith, as if he was the only player on that field who played against the Steelers that made a mistake? You're some of the same fans that predicted we'd go 8-8 this year or worse! You are some of the same people that drag this fan base down and are nothing, but whiny b*tches. Mellinger and you whiny b*tches should move on if you ask me! Quit your crying, put some pampers on if you can't wipe your own ass, and look at the bigger picture for a change! Bunch Alex Smith haters!
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Old 01-23-2017, 12:30 PM   #658
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What if Dorsey drafts a QB with a high pick and Alex is still here?
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Alex Smith is the most overrated QB in the NFL.
I disagree. Outside the Chiefs fan base you will most people have him in that 18-22 area. I think that is fair and accurate.
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I think most of us could live with that. Sitting a bona fide prospect for a year or two would be the best scenario Chiefs fans have seen since the 80's. We need to draft and develop. If that means Alex at the helm for the next year or two, I can live with that.
Agreed
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