Alright, so WHO do you replace Alex with?

[Direckshun]

I'm in favor like everybody else on this board (and 85% of the NFL) of upgrading at QB.

But there is nobody to do that with.

It's easy to say it should be done.

Which of these steps are you willing to take?

Poll coming.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You realize that pretty much makes him John Elway, right?

May want to tap the brakes a bit there, hoss.

I never said Elway, don't put words in my mouth. The kid was the High School Texas State athlete of the year and has a baseball pedigree . You can't measure his learning quotient Ala Prescott/Wilson he has the same qualities though.. If he's put in a situation to succeed, there will mancrushes that will dawrf the Alex cult.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

I never said Elway, don't put words in my mouth. The kid was the High School Texas State athlete of the year and has a baseball of year. You can't measure his learning quotient Ala Prescott/Wilson he has the same qualities though.. If he's put in a situation to succeed, there will mancrushes that will dawrf the Alex cult.

If you take Russell Wilson and give him Colin Kaepernicks arm, then make him 6'3'', 215 lbs, you have John Elway.

You can't say the dude is like one of the most mobile, intelligent quarterbacks in football (Wilson) and would possess the strongest arm in football (Kaepernick) in a pretty perfect QB frame (Mahomes has nice height/build) and then get indignant when it's pointed out that you've just combined the traits that yield a Hall of Fame quarterback.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So just restructure Foles and come to the table ready to move next year.

We've all seen how the movie ends with Smith at QB and there's no doubt that he's declining.

IMO, the Chiefs should renegotiate Foles contract to something like 3 years, $22 million ($7 million or so per), then do whatever it takes to draft Mahomes, whether it's giving up all of their Comp Picks or a pick next year along with their #1 this year.

After the draft, trade or release Alex Smith. Go into TC with Foles and Mahomes as the #1 & #2, with Bray or someone else competing for the #3 spot.

At this point, after seeing Foles against Indy and Jax, while spending a full year with Reid, Nagy and Childress, I don't know how his performance would differ from another season of Alex Smith.

It's time to ****ing move on.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If you take Russell Wilson and give him Colin Kaepernicks arm, then make him 6'3'', 215 lbs, you have John Elway.

You can't say the dude is like one of the most mobile, intelligent quarterbacks in football (Wilson) and would possess the strongest arm in football (Kaepernick) in a pretty perfect QB frame (Mahomes has nice height/build) and then get indignant when it's pointed out that you've just combined the traits that yield a Hall of Fame quarterback.

http://www.maxpreps.com/m/article.as...b-f7dddb2f05dd

Never said Elway you're putting words in my mouth

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

We've all seen how the movie ends with Smith at QB and there's no doubt that he's declining.

IMO, the Chiefs should renegotiate Foles contract to something like 3 years, $22 million ($7 million or so per), then do whatever it takes to draft Mahomes, whether it's giving up all of their Comp Picks or a pick next year along with their #1 this year.

After the draft, trade or release Alex Smith. Go into TC with Foles and Mahomes as the #1 & #2, with Bray or someone else competing for the #3 spot.

At this point, after seeing Foles against Indy and Jax, while spending a full year with Reid, Nagy and Childress, I don't know how his performance would differ from another season of Alex Smith.

It's time to ****ing move on.

Please god this. I would even take DeShaun Watson if they feel he's worth the pick.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

He's became a terrible football poster since 13' when he bitched about trading Arenas and threw a tantrum when we didn't draft that piece of shit Geno Smith.

Link to the tantrum I threw?

I pretty much threw my arms up and said, "Whatever. Enjoy your slight upgrade over Matt Cassel, Chiefs."

[ndws]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Heh. Well you're certainly rising to Fisher's defense now.

I'm not arguing, and have never argued, that we should replace Fisher.

I'm arguing he's not winning the line of scrimmage against a tough front seven. He's primarily a finesse player.

But have it your way.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by ndws

Defensive holding. Five yard penalty and - oh, wait. That's a Steeler. Never mind.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Defensive holding. Five yard penalty and - oh, wait. That's a Steeler. Never mind.

"Hulk Hogan with the suplex! Oh, wait...I'm an NFL ref now."

[oldman]

I'm not giving up 1/2 my picks this, let alone this and next years for a true 2nd rounder. I don't see trading for someone else's retread, either. Foles is a back up, period.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

http://www.maxpreps.com/m/article.as...b-f7dddb2f05dd

Never said Elway you're putting words in my mouth

So just gonna ignore the transitive property here, eh?

You said he's like Russell Wilson with Kaepernick's arm - yes?
Russell Wilson is among the more intelligent, mobile QBs in football - yes?
Colin Kaepernick has among the strongest arms in football - yes?
Mahomes has a much better QB build than Wilson - yes?

Of course you didn't say he was Elway, but what you described IS a similar prospect to Elway - smart, mobile, good leadership intangibles, cannon of an arm, good build. I'm pointing out that saying "he's Russell Wilson with Colin Kaepernick's arm" is an incredibly stupid thing to say and the fact that you're trying so desperately to parse words here shows that you know it.

You overplayed your hand something awful. Mahomes is a fine prospect but you just started with a player that's on a HoF career track and then took his two worst problems (arm strength and physical stature) and not only mitigated them, but made them obvious strengths.

That's absurd.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So just gonna ignore the transitive property here, eh?

You said he's like Russell Wilson with Kaepernick's arm - yes?
Russell Wilson is among the more intelligent, mobile QBs in football - yes?
Colin Kaepernick has among the strongest arms in football - yes?
Mahomes has a much better QB build than Wilson - yes?

Of course you didn't say he was Elway, but what you described IS a similar prospect to Elway - smart, mobile, good leadership intangibles, cannon of an arm, good build. I'm pointing out that saying "he's Russell Wilson with Colin Kaepernick's arm" is an incredibly stupid thing to say and the fact that you're trying so desperately to parse words here shows that you know it.

You overplayed your hand something awful. Mahomes is a fine prospect but you just started with a player that's on a HoF career track and then took his two worst problems (arm strength and physical stature) and not only mitigated them, but made them obvious strengths.

That's absurd.

LOL, Christ arguing just to argue correct? Where did I say Elway?

If you read the article you understand the comparison. The kid has a baseball pedigree , the arm, and athletic ability like Kaepernick and Wilson. His disposition is like Wilson's. If he can adapt quickly in a conducive situation like the Chiefs then yes he'll succeed.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

LOL, Christ arguing just to argue correct? Where did I say Elway?

You can't be this dense.

My ENTIRE point is not that you said Elway, it's that you described him. You absolutely called the third highest rated quarterback in a mediocre class "Russell Wilson with Colin Kaepernick's arm" which is just stupid on its face.

No, he is not Russell Wilson with Kaepernick's arm because if he WERE, he'd be John Elway.

Have I broken this down enough for you? I'm saying your comparison is absurd because you've just about built the perfect quarterback by combining Wilson and Kaepernick and no, Pat Mahomes is not the perfect quarterback.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You can't be this dense.

My ENTIRE point is not that you said Elway, it's that you described him. You absolutely called the third highest rated quarterback in a mediocre class "Russell Wilson with Colin Kaepernick's arm" which is just stupid on its face.

No, he is not Russell Wilson with Kaepernick's arm because if he WERE, he'd be John Elway.

Have I broken this down enough for you? I'm saying your comparison is absurd because you've just about built the perfect quarterback by combining Wilson and Kaepernick and no, Pat Mahomes is not the perfect quarterback.

**** it, you're putting words in my mouth didn't read the article for the comparison.

You're justbeing combative

[Mr. Laz]

Fisher is good enough, he will continue to get stronger as he gets older. He will fall for those cheap moves less and less. He just happened to be shafted by the refs at exactly the wrong time.

Those bastard refs let them play in the trenches the entire game and then suddenly decided to pay attention in the last minute of the game.

Chiefs ... the only team in the NFL that doesn't get home field refing