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Old 09-11-2016, 12:32 PM  
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Is it time to start Foles over Smith?
Pathetic.

He's played poorly today


Thoughts?
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Old 10-31-2016, 01:27 PM   #1081
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Actually it turned out to be good that it was under thrown because the DB was running side by side of Hill, and wasn't looking at the ball. Hill stopped and the DB kept running, turned out to be a "good" throw , by the way its not hard to underthrow the fastest guy in the NFL. Especially on your first rep back from being a backup.
It was late and over the middle.

He did that same bit of idiocy in the pre-season and I gave him a pass because it was 3rd and long and a pick would've been the same as a punt.

But you simply do not make a throw late and down the middle on first ****ing down. That's the kind of play that shouldn't be made and if you make it against any kind of quality defense, your best hope is a penalty.

Judging process is always more predictive than judging results and here the process was exceptionally poor. It was bad execution of a worse decision. That ball should've never come out as he had absolutely no way to throw it far enough for Hill to run under it. The underthrow was the only thing that could've happened there and he's lucky that Hill bailed him out.
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Old 10-31-2016, 01:27 PM   #1082
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I was just thinking this. Here is the Foles bomb. Huge amount of pressure, which affected the throw. But Alex would have been running. That is a 50-yard throw. Alex doesn't throw the ball 50 yards under that kind of pressure.
This is a bad example considering Alex did this on a similar play in 2013 in the same building against the same team.
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Old 10-31-2016, 01:27 PM   #1083
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I was just thinking this. Here is the Foles bomb. Huge amount of pressure, which affected the throw. But Alex would have been running. That is a 50-yard throw. Alex doesn't throw the ball 50 yards under that kind of pressure.
When QB's can STEP UP in the pocket, they usually have great success.
I've seen Alex Smith do it a few times, and when he does it... it works.

Most of the time I see shitty QB's go fetal.
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Old 10-31-2016, 01:28 PM   #1084
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This is a bad example considering Alex did this on a similar play in 2013 in the same building against the same team.
No one cares about 2013 Alex Smith. That player is long gone.
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Old 10-31-2016, 01:28 PM   #1086
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Same play, different QBs.



Reid seems to love that play.









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Smith would have gone fetal the second the guy smoking Schwartz got on the same yard line.
watch the line closely.

Smith would have stepped up the same, but would have run up the middle.. with Fisher's guy breaking away to tackle Smith for a short gain.


Don't know about ya'll, but I do see the QB2 come in and spark a team with courage. Got nothing to lose, and are eager as hell to make an impression. Give them games as QB1, and they start to show the warts.

I'm not saying this would be Foles. I have been complimentary of him, and still will be until he shows otherwise.

.. but it's true. Chucking up passes can have big rewards.. but we all know they can badly bite you in the ass as well.

Push for this guy, push for that guy, whatever. I'm just gonna enjoy whatever the ride brings. I'd prefer it be Smith, but if Foles is clearly better, bring it.
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Old 10-31-2016, 01:29 PM   #1088
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Actually it turned out to be good that it was under thrown because the DB was running side by side of Hill, and wasn't looking at the ball. Hill stopped and the DB kept running, turned out to be a "good" throw , by the way its not hard to underthrow the fastest guy in the NFL. Especially on your first rep back from being a backup. DID YOU SEE HOW LONG THAT THROW WAS? IF IT WAS NOT UNDERTHROWN IT WOULD OF BEEN IN THE AIR FOR LIKE 70 YARDS LOL!
I cant even if i ever heard an "alex smith supporter" say "its a good thing he 'underthrew the ball" you would have a field day with that, call bull sh*t and say how much of a reerun said poster is for ever saying "underthrowing a ball" is a good thing

Again, your hypocritical af simply put. Next time alex smith underthrows a ball to a WR, and WR catches it.. imma be looking for you specifically to say how good it was that the quarterback underthrew the pass..
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of course SSJ and Petro are all on board with moving ahead with Foles and excited... and here is douchebag Keitzman sucking more Alex Smith dick.
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But up until yesterday, pointing out that Smith wasn't lighting up bad Saints' or Jets' defenses was "trolling".
I just don't understand what you folks don't get here.

He's not going to light up bad secondaries. It's not his style of game. And he's not going to get his ass handed to him by good ones either.

Foles is a hollow stats quarterback that can pick on weak sisters but he'll kill you against high-caliber competition. Granted, that's simply my opinion based on his past body of work and my general disdain for his kind of QB (less methodical; more balls to the walls). Perhaps he's broken 3 years of bad habits in the span of 2 months.

But I see a slightly more polished Bray when I watch Foles. He's like those fireballing pitchers with amazing stuff and poor command. They're fun as hell to watch when they're facing overmatched opponents but when you get them out there against a smart, patient ballclub, they'll get their asses kicked and you'd rather have the patient veteran working the corners.
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Old 10-31-2016, 01:31 PM   #1091
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You are blowing too many details together here, and it's diluting the simple truth.

Point a finger at the HC, OL, WRs, etc. for the QB sucking = excuse.

That's the rule. Oh, wait. now there are extenuating circumstances to analyze?
There could be some legitimate discussion on his strengths & weaknesses, and there has been some, but it gets lost in all the hyperbole from both sides of the argument. The Alex fans make a lot of excuses as to why his teammates are holding him back - the non-Alex fans make a lot of excuses as to why he's the worst QB ever. It's a never ending circle.

He's not a flashy QB. Won't win you many games on his own, but won't turn the ball over making it harder to get wins. Nothing wrong with it. Translates well in regular season, not so well in the post season. We are reliving the 90's. All those wins were great, but we never got the one we wanted.
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of course SSJ and Petro are all on board with moving ahead with Foles and excited... and here is douchebag Keitzman sucking more Alex Smith dick.
That's because Keitzman is nothing more than a homer with a microphone.

I lost any respect for that idiot back in 2012 when he was defending Cassel.
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Foles is clearly better.
There it is.
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I cant even if i ever heard an "alex smith supporter" say "its a good thing he 'underthrew the ball" you would have a field day with that, call bull sh*t and say how much of a reerun said poster is for ever saying "underthrowing a ball" is a good thing

Again, your hypocritical af simply put. Next time alex smith underthrows a ball to a WR, and WR catches it.. imma be looking for you specifically to say how good it was that the quarterback underthrew the pass..
You don't win superbowls being conservative. Explain how a conservative "safe" offense with no downfield presence is a good thing for present day NFL. Alex Smith is a empty shell of a dangerous QB. You NEED to be able to throw downfield to keep the defense honest. No defense respects Smith, therefore this team will not advance in the playoffs. Maybe against the Texans.
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Interesting note - I heard a commentator in the pre-season talk about Smith being a leg-locked passer and made a point to try to watch for it some this year. He's right; Smith likes to lock that leg and it does seem to sap him of some arm strength.

Foles doesn't. Foles is going to have freer, easier velocity than Smith and I just don't see any arguing it. But it sure looked to me like he couldn't maintain his arm slot. He'd bring the ball out from several different angles and I just don't think you can be a consistently successful quarterback doing that unless you're an insanely good athlete.

Rodgers can do it because his body allows him to get away with it. Stafford and Cutler could do it as well and both of them are underrated athletes. I don't see that ability with Foles. He's very much the upright pocket passer and if he hopes to take a step forward, that arm has to be more consistent.
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