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Old 04-28-2016, 11:52 PM  
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San Fran Trade is Perfect
And I ****ing called it.

Those of you calling me Blackbob and touting Lynch for the last few months are a bunch of morons

Either a) go cheer for the donks and paxton b) shut up, and enjoy the awesome things that Dorsey is doing for this team
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:01 AM   #61
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Last KC drafted qb to win a game for the Chiefs is Todd Blackledge. How many Denver drafted QBs have won playoff games in that span?

I'm indifferent about Lynch, but it's no wonder fans are desperate for a 1st round qb. It's not like the Chiefs way is some proven recipe for success.
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Elway

Um, Tebow

There's your list. Clearly Denver has had much more success overall as a franchise than the Chiefs have but let's not act said they're some QB development factory


EDIT: oh and I guess you could include Cutler, technically, as a Denver drafted QB to win a playoff game, just not with Denver.
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Elway was not drafted by the Broncos.
So much for the Chiefsplanet theory that you MUST draft and develop your franchise quarterback.

Quarterbacks drafted by Denver who won a playoff game for Denver:

Tim Tebow

Quarterbacks NOT drafted by Denver who won at least one playoff game for Denver (3 of the 4 took Denver to the Super Bowl):

John Elway (drafted by the Colts)
Peyton Manning (drafted by the Colts)
Jake Plummer (drafted by the Cardinals)
Craig Morton (drafted by the Cowboys)

Denver seems to have had pretty good success with retread quarterbacks. Is it possible that the Chiefsplanet brain trust has been wrong all of these years about the NECESSITY to draft and develop the QBOTF?
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:03 AM   #62
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So what you wanted was to give up half of our draft for one player? Trade up three spots would have taken at least our second and sixth leaving us with a 4th 5th and 7th. Sounds incredibly bad.
Denver traded up 6 spots in the 1st round for the last pick in the 3rd round
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:03 AM   #63
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We could have traded up with the Vikings for WJIII, but probably would have to give up a lot because the Bengals might have taken Treadwell right after that.

I really didn't like the idea of trading up this year...
There were a couple of guys that mentioned last night that part of the punishment that Jolly Roger handed down in addition to the Chiefs losing picks, was the inability to trade up. I have no idea if that is true or a load of crap. Either way **** Roger.
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:04 AM   #64
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Are you making this up?
yes, he is
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:05 AM   #65
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Shitty low value trade down. Shitty OP.
Your football assessments are about as valuable as the giant turd I just let loose after a night of eating buffalo wings
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:09 AM   #66
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Your football assessments are about as valuable as the giant turd I just let loose after a night of eating buffalo wings
I'm sorry dude, but he's correct.

Think about it ... a 4th round draft pick, who are we going to get in the 4th round that is worth losing a starting level guy in the 1st round?

Sure you can hit big on any round but that just rolling the dice.

Our 4th round pick will probably be just solid backup/special teamer.

Dorsey and his quantity over quality attitude sucks.

I would rather just have 2 or 3 studs than a draft full of JAGs.
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:09 AM   #67
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Denver traded up 6 spots in the 1st round for the last pick in the 3rd round
And we don't have a third....
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:10 AM   #68
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There were a couple of guys that mentioned last night that part of the punishment that Jolly Roger handed down in addition to the Chiefs losing picks, was the inability to trade up. I have no idea if that is true or a load of crap. Either way **** Roger.
That was a sarcastic post (by SNR? can't remember) mocking Dorsey.
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:11 AM   #69
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I'm sorry dude, but he's correct.

Think about it ... a 4th round draft pick, who are we going to get in the 4th round that is worth losing a starting level guy in the 1st round?

Sure you can hit big on any round but that just rolling the dice.

Our 4th round pick will probably be just solid backup/special teamer.

Dorsey and his quantity over quality attitude sucks.

I would rather just have 2 or 3 studs than a draft full of JAGs.
I'm totally bookmarking this thread so we can revisit it after training camp
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:12 AM   #70
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Denver traded up 6 spots in the 1st round for the last pick in the 3rd round
It's not always about how silver-tongued a GM is in his trade attempts.. but how willing the other team's GM really is to move back.
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I'm sorry dude, but he's correct.

Think about it ... a 4th round draft pick, who are we going to get in the 4th round that is worth losing a starting level guy in the 1st round?

Sure you can hit big on any round but that just rolling the dice.

Our 4th round pick will probably be just solid backup/special teamer.

Dorsey and his quantity over quality attitude sucks.

I would rather just have 2 or 3 studs than a draft full of JAGs.

Let's wait and see if they use the 4th and 6th from SF to trade back up into the 3rd.
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:13 AM   #72
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Denver traded up 6 spots in the 1st round for the last pick in the 3rd round
And actually would have taken at least 5 spots to get either Jackson or Burns.

So by that measure we raped the Niners?
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We could have traded up with the Vikings for WJIII, but probably would have to give up a lot because the Bengals might have taken Treadwell right after that.

I really didn't like the idea of trading up this year...
There is no way we could have traded up without a 3rd. That fugged us period!

Dorsey certainly would not let go of our second just to swap and no team gives a shit about a late 4th rounder. We couldn't move.

Seriously what deal was to be had to move up that wold not have ruined the rest of the draft?
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That was a sarcastic post (by SNR? can't remember) mocking Dorsey.
Yeah I saw two or three guys post it so had no idea if it was true or a load of horse dung. I just hope we can hit a couple of homeruns with todays picks.
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And we don't have a third....
Come on now, you're just trying to move the goal post.

1st - it was Dorsey's(and Reid's) fault that we don't have a 3rd
2nd - The trade value you initially talked about was incorrect, you can trade up low in the 1st round without giving up the farm

Dorsey is a quantity draft guy

I believe this team, at this point, needs quality over quantity.

We need 2 or 3 quality starters out of this draft ... **** the rest

1) stud corner to start opposite of Peters
2) Pass rush to supplement Houston being hurt
3) capable quality OG

OG can be picked in the mid/low rounds ... get the best CB and Pass rush guy you can and then move on.
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