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Old 11-24-2015, 07:03 PM  
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Would you rather make the playoffs, or get a top 10 first round pick?
Would you rather the Chiefs squeak into the playoffs with our somewhat anemic offense and pray it's not a 1 and done. Or get a top 10 pick for Dorsey to draft who knows who?
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Old 11-24-2015, 09:35 PM   #46
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I think I'll go playoffs.

This organization isn't drafting a 1st round QB regardless so I'd prefer to at least have an enjoyable product every Sunday while also establishing somewhat of a winning culture at the same time.
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Old 11-24-2015, 09:37 PM   #47
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This is the only way I want to see the Chiefs in playoffs. ****ing lose and ****ing bull shit. Then we would expect Alex Smith get another season.

I just care about drafting a quarterback that we can build a Super Bowl team around. I know it's wishful thinking and won't happen but that's what I've always wanted.
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Old 11-24-2015, 09:38 PM   #48
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As it stands, the Chiefs have $116 million committed to 2016. The Salary cap is expected to go up to $153 from $143, so they'll have about $37 million to spend.

But keep in mind, Hali, DJ, Howard, Daniel, Berry and Allen are not under contract next year and it's likely the Chiefs will bring all them back (although Daniel is less certain because he may find a starting gig on the open market).

Hali and DJ will take up approximately $10 million combined. Berry will likely get $8 million, Howard $7 million and Allen $3 million. So right there, you're looking at $28 million, leaving only $9 million. If they re-sign Daniel, he'll command at least $3 million per, leaving only about $6 million.

$6 million isn't much considering they need to allocate almost that much for the draft.

Personally, I don't want to see them "tweak" any contracts, especially Alex Smith's, for obvious reasons. Ben Grubbs is the most likely candidate, as I seriously doubt he'll be worth $6 million next year at age 32 when he's underperformed this year and missed several games to date. But cutting him leaves $5 million in dead money with only $1 million in savings, so Dorsey's in a pickle on that one.

Bottom line is that I wouldn't expect to see any high priced free agents in KC this Spring.
Dane, you're a knowledgeable poster, so I'm really surprised at your take on this. I agree that these guys will get the price per season that you're talking about. But their cap hit year one will not be that big due to signing bonuses. Many of them will likely get a sizeable bonus and a year one salary of around $1million or less. So if Berry gets say 5 years, $40 million with a $10 million bonus and 1st year salary of $1million, his cap hit is $3 million not $8 million. $5 million freed up right there.
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Old 11-24-2015, 09:41 PM   #49
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It's kind of hard to break the playoff loss streak without getting into the playoffs.
But...it's also kind of hard to continue the playoff loss streak if we don't get in.
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Old 11-24-2015, 09:43 PM   #50
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Dane, you're a knowledgeable poster, so I'm really surprised at your take on this. I agree that these guys will get the price per season that you're talking about. But their cap hit year one will not be that big due to signing bonuses. Many of them will likely get a sizeable bonus and a year one salary of around $1million or less. So if Berry gets say 5 years, $40 million with a $10 million bonus and 1st year salary of $1million, his cap hit is $3 million not $8 million. $5 million freed up right there.
They're "old"guys.

Spreading out a signing bonus for over 30 players would cripple the franchise in the future.

That's not going to happen.

Straight cash, Homey.
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Top 10 pick. A pointless playoff embarrassment does nothing for us except validate the insane notion that Alex Smith and Andy Reid should be our QB and HC.
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In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if many fans in KC just bail on the Chiefs and start focusing their attention on the Royals instead. A few days ago the 1st time since I was a child I saw two groups of kids all decked out in Royals gear instead of Cardinals or Chiefs apparel. So Clark needs to sell the fanbase of something that's great instead of good enough due to revenue competition with the Royals. Plus, if you look at big market cities usually one team is slotted as a possible championship contender.

If the Royals continue to kick ass, then Clark may have to take the risk and find a new face of the franchise with a QB in a specfied draft when an elite one is available
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Top 10 pick. A pointless playoff embarrassment does nothing for us except validate the insane notion that Alex Smith and Andy Reid should be our QB and HC.
You aren't likely going to find a coach better than Andy Reid to replace him with. Reid is a Top 10 coach in the NFL. Fact.
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Chiefs need to break their playoff win streak. There's no better time than this year, because this is by far the shittiest NFL product we've seen in years where the Chiefs can squeak in as a wild card, and possibly still play a shitty team.

But because Chiefs, we're probably setting ourselves up for another mediocre product creating job security for key people on this team who are holding this team back.
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