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Old 06-04-2015, 09:55 AM  
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2015 Chiefs WR Core Worst in NFL?
There has been much talk this off season regarding the improvements to the much maligned 2014 KC wide receiver corps. The addition of Maclin and Avant (since Avant was a late season add last year) with the flash from Wilson toward the end of the season, the rebranding of DAT as a WR and the hope that Conley will be a player, many here see this as the best WR corps the Chiefs have had in some time.

It is - in my opinion - potentially the best WR corps Smith has ever played with in his 10 years in the league.

Yet, there is an article on Arrowhead Pride that lists Chiefs 2015 WR corps the worst in NFL.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/6...rs-weakest-nfl

What say you? Are we (many of us anyway) just drinking the Kool-aid, or do the Chiefs have something going on the outside?
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Old 06-05-2015, 12:39 PM   #76
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Bowe was a FA, why isn't he in Baltimore?
Yep. Bowe got very little love in FA.. for a reason.

He is far from useless, but without speed, he better be a beast at jumping for contested passes or out-muscling defenders for the ball. He better be good at working back toward the ball after his route, because of the poor separation. He better ****ing be able to concentrate on keeping his feet in bounds in critical moments. He just wasn't. Whether he just didn't feel like putting in the effort.. I don't know.

I'm glad he is Cleveland's problem.. and this is coming from an LSU fan that really liked him. I thought he would be far better than he was in 2013 through 2014.

Dude got paid... dude got lazy. I honestly think this was the deal.
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Old 06-05-2015, 02:45 PM   #77
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Since I actually think Maclin is going to be a downgrade from Bowe, it's entirely possible.
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Old 06-05-2015, 03:02 PM   #78
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What's wrong with Arrowhead Pride? Just another place to find Chiefs info.
I didn't say there was anything wrong with AP...although I do believe they are inclined to being delusional homers most of the time...sometimes they do post things that I find interesting, but they are homers.

I just simply stated that you Alex Smith sexuals always refer to and/or link-drop AP. You ASsexuals love AP.
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Old 06-05-2015, 03:07 PM   #79
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Actually, that ranking came from NFL.com, original article:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...osition-groups
I didn't dispute this.

The OP did reference AP as the source where he (or she) discovered the link. And ASsexuals love their AP. They refer to it all the time....as if the general homer-happy perspective there is going to hold any merit here.
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Until Bowe didn't go up and win the battle for the ball or just plained dropped it. Or maybe he doesn't line up right or make the correctly route adjustment.

Bowe was a FA, why isn't he in Baltimore?
Pretty much. If he was so great, why did he end up with the Browns when there were tons of teams that are much better off at QB than the Browns are who could have used his services if they saw him the same way that many members on this forum do.

Panthers passed on him.
Seahawks passed on him.
Pats passed on him.
Ravens passed on him.
SD passed on him.

etc.

Maybe Bowe really just wasn't that good anymore and everyone knew it? The only team that was willing to give him a starting job was the Browns.
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Old 06-05-2015, 04:27 PM   #81
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Pretty much. If he was so great, why did he end up with the Browns when there were tons of teams that are much better off at QB than the Browns are who could have used his services if they saw him the same way that many members on this forum do.

Panthers passed on him.
Seahawks passed on him.
Pats passed on him.
Ravens passed on him.
SD passed on him.

etc.

Maybe Bowe really just wasn't that good anymore and everyone knew it? The only team that was willing to give him a starting job was the Browns.
Everyone around here is so invested in "Bowe was great our QB just sucked" that they refused to even consider other options.

So did the rest of the league just hate that Bowe pointed at his name on his jersey, or that he was black? Nope, the league doesn't think he's that good either or he would have ended up someplace besides the cleveland cesspool.

It's not just about what CP thinks.


Bowe is on a Prove-it deal now, we'll see what happens. Maybe the lack of FA attention will wake him up and lead him to try harder. Cleveland should get the best of whatever he has.
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Yep. Bowe got very little love in FA.. for a reason.

He is far from useless, but without speed, he better be a beast at jumping for contested passes or out-muscling defenders for the ball. He better be good at working back toward the ball after his route, because of the poor separation. He better ****ing be able to concentrate on keeping his feet in bounds in critical moments. He just wasn't. Whether he just didn't feel like putting in the effort.. I don't know.

I'm glad he is Cleveland's problem.. and this is coming from an LSU fan that really liked him. I thought he would be far better than he was in 2013 through 2014.

Dude got paid... dude got lazy. I honestly think this was the deal.
He rocks at the 5 yard come-back, catch, and sit. If only there was a seats after catch stat.
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If you were to check the football dictionary for quarterback purgatory, Alex Smith’s face would be right there. Smith’s evolution into a super-conservative passer has been a major issue for the Kansas City Chiefs’ Super Bowl hopes. Fifteen years ago, Smith may have been regarded higher, but the league has shifted, emphasizing playmaking at the quarterback position.
A major reason for Smith’s low interception numbers (23 in the past four seasons) is his unwillingness to make somewhat difficult throws. He completely averts risk whenever possible. This hinders the offense because the Chiefs lack dynamic plays.
Quarterbacks with too much variance are an issue, but there is a happy medium to strive for. Winning with Alex Smith will be impossible until he shows the creativity required to produce big plays as a passer.
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Winning with Alex Smith will be impossible until he gets the respectable pass protection required to produce big plays as a passer.
Agreed!

.. and where does he stand on win % the last few years? top 7?
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Agreed!

.. and where does he stand on win % the last few years? top 7?
1) Sandy, I want you to envision the greatest O-line ever assembled. That O-line can have players from ANY era, at ANY position. Imagine the cleanest, most long-lasting pocket ever created for a QB. I'm talking 6+ seconds of brick wall, every play. Now imagine Alex Smith, running outside of that pocket, and searching for the closest 5 yard target he can find because throwing up the middle might incur the wrath of a wayward palm, or god forbid, a safety or linebacker!

That is the reality.

2) I love winning lots of meaningless regular season contests!
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I just don't understand the niner fans morphing into pretend Chief die hards. It's still weird and somewhat creepy.
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And Bowe can do things Maclin can't.
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Who was that WR you gushed over after LJ?

Maclin must going to be GREAT!
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I just don't understand the niner fans morphing into pretend Chief die hards. It's still weird and somewhat creepy.
There's really no mystery; they were never Niner fans to begin with.
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I just don't understand the niner fans morphing into pretend Chief die hards. It's still weird and somewhat creepy.
lol, why "pretend"? Been a devoted follower of all KC aspects the last two years, and plan for that to continue. It's stupid to force some self-imposed rule on myself to that I can not thoroughly enjoy multiple teams of any sport. Sports are a part of our entertainment. There is no desire in me to be monogamous about it.

Don't worry about anonymous people's motives, as if they mattered.. they do not. Just as your convictions matter not for me. We are all but people that enjoy KC football +/or the game itself. Do not concern yourself with making it more complicated.
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I find it funny because it's so wrong. What's the Chiefs' record with Alex Smith at QB?
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