****The Official NEW (new)^3 conference realignment & shit talk thread****

[Pitt Gorilla]

in memory of Saul Good. He will be missed.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Yup. **** conference championship games! And the three-point shot! And the DH! And the forward pass! etc.

If it works for conference then great. Oh wait, in its first year of the playoff the SEC Champ Game can only hurt the conference.

Ouch, that sucks

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Of note:

Colorado still plays football?

Talk about a conference realignment loser.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Bowser

How long before they up the playoffs to 8 teams? As soon as next season, or will it take a couple of years?

Hopefully very soon.

Only makes sense:

5 conference champions & 3 at larges.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

I think I enjoy reading about the butthurt from the other SEC teams fans about Mizzou going to the title game in back to back seasons more than Kansas fans jabs at random shit

I love the SEC fans reaction to Mizzou. Priceless.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by FD

Seriously? You are too dumb to understand how this works?

Pac12 and Big12 teams play 9 conference games, SEC teams play 8. So every team ends up with 1 fewer loss on average. Its just math.

It is math...and you are bad at it.

It is impossible for every team to end up with one fewer loss on average. Even if every team wins every extra non conference game, that would mean half an additional loss saved versus conferences that play 9.

That said, the teams I listed didn't play an extra cupcake. They played big time programs. Arkansas won big, so they earned their bowl game. The rest lost to ranked teams that the wouldn't have otherwise played. Either way, they all earned their six wins. Meanwhile, only 4 Big 12 teams had less than 5 losses.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

Everyone is a Mizzou fan this week

But the SEC.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Bambi

If it works for conference then great. Oh wait, in its first year of the playoff the SEC Champ Game can only hurt the conference.

Ouch, that sucks

Yes. It makes things harder. I'm sure finishing on top of a ten team conference without a championship game (replaced with an extra off week) will be looked upon as favorably as winning a 14 team conference with a championship game, though.

[FD]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

It is math...and you are bad at it.

It is impossible for every team to end up with one fewer loss on average. Even if every team wins every extra non conference game, that would mean half an additional loss saved versus conferences that play 9.

That said, the teams I listed didn't play an extra cupcake. They played big time programs. Arkansas won big, so they earned their bowl game. The rest lost to ranked teams that the wouldn't have otherwise played. Either way, they all earned their six wins. Meanwhile, only 4 Big 12 teams had less than 5 losses.

You are right, every team gets 1/2 fewer losses (or more wins) on average. This is still a big advantage in getting bowl eligible.

You also can't pick out everyone's best OOC game and consider that the marginal game. The marginal game is a cupcake. Hell, 2 of your examples are rivalry games that are completely predetermined.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by FD

You are right, every team gets 1/2 fewer losses (or more wins) on average. This is still a big advantage in getting bowl eligible.

You also can't pick out everyone's best OOC game and consider that the marginal game. The marginal game is a cupcake. Hell, 2 of your examples are rivalry games that are completely predetermined.

WTF are you talking about? Of course the extra game is the power team. That's why the SEC plays a ton of marquee OOC games while the Big 12 plays significantly fewer. Big 12 teams didn't drop their cupcake games when they had to go to a nine game schedule.

Your two time conference champion played Northwestern State, Buffalo, and SMU in the non-con and has agreed to future games against some school called The Incarnate Word.

Big 12 teams replaced difficult out of conference games with another game against a random Big 12 team. Big ****ing deal. The SEC cleaned up against the Big 12 this year, so don't expect me to be impressed that most teams went from three rummies and a team with a pulse in the noncon to three rummies and an extra game in the Big 12.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Sagarin's predictor has TCU #2, +2.5 behind Alabama. They would be favored in a hypothetical matchup vs Ohio State by a full TD. This is with data incorporating their injured QB.

Sagarin has 3 SEC teams in the top 4, 5 in the top 7, and 10 in the top 23.

[Saul Good]

Sagarin SOS

1. Auburn
2. Arkansas
3. LSU
4. Alabama
5. Texas A&M
6. Mississippi State
7. Tennessee

For reference, Baylor and TCU are 66 and 31.

BUT SEC TEAMS GET OFF EASY BECAUSE SCHEDULES!!! /FD

[FD]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

WTF are you talking about? Of course the extra game is the power team. That's why the SEC plays a ton of marquee OOC games while the Big 12 plays significantly fewer. Big 12 teams didn't drop their cupcake games when they had to go to a nine game schedule.

Your two time conference champion played Northwestern State, Buffalo, and SMU in the non-con and has agreed to future games against some school called The Incarnate Word.

Big 12 teams replaced difficult out of conference games with another game against a random Big 12 team. Big ****ing deal. The SEC cleaned up against the Big 12 this year, so don't expect me to be impressed that most teams went from three rummies and a team with a pulse in the noncon to three rummies and an extra game in the Big 12.

Yeah, Baylor has a shit schedule but look who Mississippi St played, Southern Miss, UAB, South Alabama, and Tennessee-Martin. Plentry of Big 12 teams played big OOC games.

Just look at the examples you found of OOC games by bowl teams, two were historical rivalry games. These aren't marginal games.

And strength of schedule ratings just show that the SEC west was strong and deep this year, which we already know (and which is itself a product of the scheduling advantage they undeniably have.)

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by FD

Yeah, Baylor has a shit schedule but look who Mississippi St played, Southern Miss, UAB, South Alabama, and Tennessee-Martin. Plentry of Big 12 teams played big OOC games.

Just look at the examples you found of OOC games by bowl teams, two were historical rivalry games. These aren't marginal games.

And strength of schedule ratings just show that the SEC west was strong and deep this year, which we already know (and which is itself a product of the scheduling advantage they undeniably have.)

Are you really trying to downplay the great non conference games played by the SEC because they're rivalry games that are played every year?

Yes, MSU had a weak out of conference schedule. They still have the sixth hardest schedule in the country. That's how good the SEC is. Even with a nine game season, the Big 12 can't come close to the strength of schedule that the SEC teams have.

Forget the SEC West, though. SEC East teams schedules per Sagarin are 7, 9, 11, 12, 14, 18, and 23.

SEC teams played the hardest schedules of any conference in the country by a ****ing landslide, and 12 of 14 made bowl games with a 13th team blowing their shot at the end of the game yesterday.

The bottom half of the SEC will put 5 out of 7 teams into bowl games.
The bottom half of the Big 12 will put 1 out of 5 teams into bowl games.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Sagarin has 3 SEC teams in the top 4, 5 in the top 7, and 10 in the top 23.

You said he's an idiot so you can't cite him now.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You said he's an idiot so you can't cite him now.

He's just feeding you the same shit you shovel out. How does it taste?