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Old 07-31-2014, 01:23 PM  
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***Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread part II***
Original thread was getting to large for the board

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014 Central Division title and NLCS series win (so far)

This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.

Only 1 losing season since 2000.

Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.

Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.

Made the NLCS 8 times

Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.

60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:53 PM   #211
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As a Pirates fan, I am not a happy camper!

Hats off to the Cardinals who consistently find a way to beat us.......
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As a Pirates fan, I am not a happy camper!

Hats off to the Cardinals who consistently find a way to beat us.......
You have a good team. Cole, mccutchen etc are as good as anyone in the game. I don't see any hard facts as to why we win more than we should against you guys the last two years.
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I knew the Brewers would collapse with that fraud pitching staff of theirs. It's on guys.
I think if we can take 3 out of 4 they will fold.

I'd settle for 2 out of 4 in this series. They are fighting for their lives. Desperate team playing at home will be tough to take 3 of 4. The odds of the losing streak continuing are hard to overcome. MLB teams with that amount of talent just don't keep losing like they have recently.
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You have a good team. Cole, mccutchen etc are as good as anyone in the game. I don't see any hard facts as to why we win more than we should against you guys the last two years.
Their pitching is dogshit
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Their pitching is dogshit
Cole ain't dogshit. He is the real deal.

BTW, How in the hell is Peralta a top 5 player in WAR? A 5.6 WAR? He's hitting .260.
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I think if we can take 3 out of 4 they will fold.

I'd settle for 2 out of 4 in this series. They are fighting for their lives. Desperate team playing at home will be tough to take 3 of 4. The odds of the losing streak continuing are hard to overcome. MLB teams with that amount of talent just don't keep losing like they have recently.
That's true but I'm not worried. Like I said their best pitcher is Gallardo and he's inconsistent at best. Same with Garza, throw in a steroid free Braun and I don't see how they bounce back.
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Cole ain't dogshit. He is the real deal.

BTW, How in the hell is Peralta a top 5 player in WAR? A 5.6 WAR? He's hitting .260.
He's at 5.1 fWAR. His defense has been spectacular and he's produced 26% more runs than the average ML hitter from the shortstop position. That's huge.

Cole is a good young pitcher, but they don't have a single starter who has put up more than 1.2 WAR. Kind of hard to compete in a division when your starting pitching is that bad.
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He's at 5.1 fWAR. His defense has been spectacular and he's produced 26% more runs than the average ML hitter from the shortstop position. That's huge.
MLB tonight had him at 5.6 WAR. 5th best in MLB.
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MLB tonight had him at 5.6 WAR. 5th best in MLB.
That's his bWAR.
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That's his bWAR.
bWAR? fWAR? Batting/Fielding? Is there an all inclusive one?
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bWAR? fWAR? Batting/Fielding? Is there an all inclusive one?
bWAR/rWAR=Baseball-Reference

fWAR=Fangraphs

They use slightly different formulas. The difference is more noticeable with pitchers than position players. Their use of different fielding formulas is why Peralta rates slightly higher in bWAR than fWAR
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