****The Official NEW new new conference realignment & shit talk thread****

[Saul Good]

Let's do it.

[TribalElder]

that was a consolation game though

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

that was a consolation game though

I can appreciate some good smack talk. Saban with a clever line after he got curbstomped by a superior program. I probably would have said something similar.

[TribalElder]

after losing to auburn the way they did and getting bumped out of a shot at the national championship you can't seriously believe they actually got up to play a consolation game vs a big 12 opponent

seriously

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

after losing to auburn the way they did and getting bumped out of a shot at the national championship you can't seriously believe they actually got up to play a consolation game vs a big 12 opponent

seriously

Of course they did. Stoops talked shit on the overrated SEC at the beginning of the year. He then backed it up.

Do you even follow this stuff or just talk out of your ass?

[RustShack]

One True Champion

[TribalElder]

It's like KU acting like the conference tourney is no big deal every year they don't win it. The years they win it, watch out it's crazy important.

pathetic

Stoops is a scumbag who is busy picking up Mizzou rejects. Nobody gives a **** about them.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

It's like KU acting like the conference tourney is no big deal every year they don't win it. The years they win it, watch out it's crazy important.

pathetic

Stoops is a scumbag who is busy picking up Mizzou rejects. Nobody gives a **** about them.

This is a great post. It needs to be preserved for a long….long time.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

It's like KU acting like the conference tourney is no big deal every year they don't win it. The years they win it, watch out it's crazy important.

pathetic

Stoops is a scumbag who is busy picking up Mizzou rejects. Nobody gives a **** about them.

KU fans get butt hurt easily.

[TribalElder]

Originally Posted by RustShack

KU fans get butt hurt easily.

so true.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Bambi

25$ per school. That's great. But it doesn't "dwarf" what the other local schools bring in. Not even close. Especially Kansas.

Just stop.

www.Foxsports.com

Every SEC School Will Make More TV Money Than Texas, Notre Dame

Remember when Notre Dame and Texas's television deals with NBC Sports and the Longhorn Network were going to revolutionize college athletics?

So much for that.

Over twenty years ago, way back in 1991, Notre Dame signed a contract to carry Irish games on NBC Sports. It was a breathtaking college sports deal in a marketplace when cable was still not dominant. Rather than join a conference Notre Dame decided to go it alone and reap all the benefits of its television rights without having to share that deal with anyone. There was talk that many other programs would follow the Irish lead. Back in 1991 it seemed like the Fighting Irish were in a revolutionary position, banking more TV money than anyone else could even dream of.

But then a funny thing happened -- cable sports began to thrive and Notre Dame's deal started to make less sense.

Why?

Because Notre Dame only had seven or eight home games to sell. That's 28-32 hours of total programming. (Notre Dame's road games are included in the television package of whomever is hosting those football games.) Thirty-two hours of programming isn't bad for a national network like NBC that has other programming to fill up the rest of the schedule, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of programming that voracious cable networks like ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, FS1 and NBC Sports Network have to fill.

Individual teams just weren't that valuable.

Smart conference executives began to realize that going it alone wasn't a viable option, it was better to bundle your games and bring a bevy of content to the market. That's what Jim Delany of the Big Ten Network recognized when he became the first major conference to start a network.

Larry Scott of the Pac 12 and Mike Slive of the SEC followed Delany's lead.

Bundles of conference games made sense. Just like in the NFL, you were stronger based upon the quality of the teams you played. Sure, you might make less per individual game selling the bundles, but you made much more money in total. Plus, and this is key, you had enough football games to make people demand your network and you had enough content to fill all those hours of cable sports programming.

It's hard to blame Notre Dame for signing a deal with NBC since the Irish are still not a member of any conference. The Irish would probably make more television money in the Big Ten than they do now, but at least when they signed their deal in 1991 the marketplace had yet to evolve.

By the time Texas decided to start its own network, anyone with half a brain saw the direction the market was moving. Everyone, that is, except for the Texas Longhorns.

For some inexplicable reason -- hubris, overconfidence, willful blindness -- at a time when everyone else was emulating the Big Ten Network's path, Texas decided it wanted to be the next Notre Dame. So the much ballyhooed Longhorn Network arrived and killed the Big 12.

Nebraska, Colorado, Texas A&M and Missouri surveyed the landscape and saw what Texas's move did, it killed any chance of a Big 12 Network, making it clear that the Longhorns, the most valuable brand in their conference, wanted to go it alone. So Nebraska jumped to the Big Ten, Colorado joined the Pac 12 and Texas A&M and Missouri headed for the SEC. Instead of starting their own network each school aligned their fan bases with a larger content provider, the conference as a whole.

Meanwhile, Texas went it alone, convinced the market for Longhorn athletics would be massive.

And Texas was wrong.

Starting the Longhorn Network was a stupid, shortsighted, and arrogant move by the Longhorns, but they got a ton of initial attention when the network was announced. Everyone in the media fawned over the genius move by the Longhorns, drinking up a ten gallon hat of lies. Except, you guessed it, the Longhorn Network is already a dry oil well.

Every single SEC school will make more money off the SEC Network than Texas makes off the Longhorn Network.

That's right, Mississippi State and Vanderbilt and Arkansas and, oh yes, Texas A&M will all make more money by combining their assets together and selling them than Texas will make by going it alone. The same will eventually be true with Big Ten Network schools and, provided they ever get their network in order, the Pac 12 schools too.

You can see all my math here on sports network revenue. Plus, here's a bit more detail on how I see the SEC math breaking down -- within three years I don't think there's any doubt that the SEC schools will be making over twenty million a year from the SEC Network. That's combined with the twenty million + that schools will be making of existing CBS and ESPN contracts.

The Longhorn Network is the least successful network launch in ESPN history and the SEC Network is the most successful network launch in ESPN history.

That's not a coincidence. It's the games, stupid.

The SEC Network will have more football games in its first two weeks than the Longhorn Network will have in its first five years.

That matters.

The Longhorn Network was all hat, the other conference networks are all cattle.

You can get a tripleheader of football on the SEC Network every weekend. You can't even get three football games on the Longhorn Network all season.

The result is simple and painful for Longhorn fans -- Texas is trying to apply a 1991 business plan to a 2014 cable and satellite universe, the equivalent of running an offense that can't throw the football in today's spread offensive era.

The Longhorns gambled that individual brands mattered in a conference era. They were sorely mistaken.

As a result the fleeing members of the Big 12 -- Nebraska, Colorado, Texas A&M and Missouri are going to end up making more money off the Longhorn Network than Texas is.

If Texas doesn't start the Longhorn Network all of those schools probably stay in the Big 12 and make much less money.

Instead, they bolted and will end up better off than Texas will.

The ultimate and crushing irony of the Longhorn Network for Texas fans?

It's going to end up making more money for hated rival Texas A&M than it is for Texas.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by RustShack

KU fans get butt hurt easily.

Oooooooh this is rich coming from a Clone. Or should I say, "Booooooo this is rich"

[KChiefs1]

Interesting read about the SECN & Miss St:

hailstatebeat.wordpress.com

Looking at MSU’s preparations for SEC Network, a $2 million investment

Posted on July 23, 2014

In less than three weeks, the SEC Network launches, and in less than four, Mississippi State will broadcast and produce its first game for the nationwide source of SEC sports.

The good news for MSU, according to Senior Associate A.D. for External Affairs Scott Wetherbee, is that his department is one of a handful across the conference who is “game-ready” already. In fact, MSU was one of the most prepared of them all for the soon-to-launch network, largely because of the University Television Center already in place on campus and the long-standing HailStateTV, home to live in-house broadcasts of Bulldog athletics.

Of course, that doesn’t mean MSU was ready to broadcast when the SEC Network was announced one year ago. No one in the conference was, as there has been a cost of preparation for all 14 schools.

For MSU, the total cost will come in two installments.

The initial investment for MSU was a relatively affordable first step, thanks largely to already having an HD control room because of the video board at Davis Wade Stadium.

Most of that cost involved upgrading the control room, as well as purchasing more and better equipment (such as $100,000 camera lenses).

However, the second phase of investments will begin soon and is expected to be a much larger bill. MSU will build a second, newer control room in Davis Wade Stadium (offering the ability to broadcast multiple events at the same time), a new studio, new offices and several other necessities.

It’s a good bit of money to spend for schools who haven’t yet seen a dollar, though they of course expect to recoup the cost, and hopefully within a couple of years according to Wetherbee, MSU’s point person for the SEC Network.

“We’re all taking a risk knowing that the gain on the back end is going to be pretty good,” he said. “We’re all kind of grasping at straws for what we’re going to get, and every time you get another announcement of a distributor, that’s more revenue for the schools.”

As it stands now, the SEC Network has a solid base of distributors and is regularly signing on more, with optimism that they will add more heavy hitters in the coming weeks and reach a point of significant revenue for ESPN and the SEC, as well as blanket coverage of the southeast.

So, what happens once the Network launches?

Well, football this fall will be like football always is: on TV and covered heavily. The changes will come from the more in-depth and frequent coverage of individual schools from an entity only charged with covering 14 teams, rather than all of sports across the globe.

The big difference in availability will be for all the other sports on campuses.

Volleyball and soccer matches this fall, like other sports in the spring, will be broadcast either on the SEC Network channel or on SEC Network+, ESPN’s online/digital platform for the network similar to Watch ESPN or ESPN3. Those broadcasts will come in three tiers.

First are games produced by ESPN and broadcast on the SEC Network channel available through cable and satellite. Second are games broadcast exclusively on SEC Network+, which will be produced by the schools themselves using their own equipment, talent, etc. The third tier of games are those the SEC Network has not picked up for either of the first two tiers, but that the schools can produce and broadcast themselves as part of SEC Network+, if they so choose.

Wetherbee says MSU’s plan is to broadcast games themselves in the tier three option whenever they aren’t picked by the network initially, meaning nearly all of MSU’s contests in all sports will be available in some fashion to those with a subscription to a cable or satellite service providing the SEC Network.

Basketball and baseball will be heavily featured on the Network, as well, and previously hard-to-watch events like the SEC Baseball Tournament in Hoover will become easily accessible. Next spring, for example, MSU will be host to the SEC Track and Field Championships and it will be broadcast from campus.

Big news for State fans and an excitement that’s felt throughout the conferences fanbases.

Beyond the broadcast of the games for sports who didn’t previously get it, MSU will also have more chances to promote its teams, players, coaches and academics. Like any broadcast on TV, there will be down time. When MSU is producing the game, it’s their job to fill it.

“If we get a three minute break in a match, we could fill it with anything,” Wetherbee said after mentioning the opportunity to highlight some of MSU’s more successful programs. “They want us to be neutral with the on-air talent, but that doesn’t mean we can’t show something special that’s going on around campus.”

Halftime could be a feature on the women’s golf team. A break between volleyball matches could be an opportunity for a live interview with baseball coach John Cohen. Timeouts may be a chance to plug Rick Ray, Vic Schaefer and the basketball teams.

In fact, Wetherbee said, the university’s academic side has been producing segments to play in such instances where they could feature people like Field Brown, the school’s newest Rhodes Scholar.

Doing all of this, however, requires a lot of work and a lot of time. MSU will be looking at around 15 people needed per broadcast for things like softball, soccer or volleyball, and it’s their job to line up the cameramen, on-air talent, producers, directors – the works.

MSU was lucky to already have fiber on campus – a million-dollar expense for some other schools – and already had the football, baseball and basketball facilities wired. All they had to do was connect volleyball, softball and soccer to the existing fiber, like adding a string of Christmas lights to an already-lit tree.

Just this week, MSU built a small studio space in the Seal Football Complex, a ‘Bureau Cam,’ it’s called, where anyone can sit and automatically be live and on-air with ESPN studios in Bristol or Charlotte.

“If Finebaum comes in with SEC Nation,” Wetherbee began as an example, “he’s going to actually do his radio show in the Bureau Cam so that he can be on TV and do the show from there.”

If SportsCenter wants to do a live interview with Dan Mullen, he just has to walk down the hall and he’s connected to the studios in Connecticut.

In the coming days of producing, connecting, broadcasting and creating, MSU’s heavy experience is a big plus for the department and makes them someone the SEC Network will lean on.

ESPN has recognized that not all schools will be ready to produce at the highest of levels and they have stressed for departments not to try to produce beyond their means.

Given the already-existing facilities and experience, Wetherbee says MSU will be one of the schools to “go full-bore” from the start with multi-camera productions of network quality.

“At first,” Wetherbee recalled from meetings and calls last summer, “everyone was gung-ho saying ‘We’re going to do four or five cameras and have a full production,’ but then reality sets in and some are saying, ‘We’re going to back off and maybe do two cameras.’

“But we’re going to try to go full-bore and make it so no one knows whether we’re doing it or if they brought in a truck from ESPN and SEC Network.”

While Wetherbee recognizes there will be a learning curve, he’s confident in MSU’s preparedness for the SEC Network to launch, and he loves the benefits it will bring to the school and its fans.

Auburn is "huge," Mullen and players believe

[Bambi]

All this SEC money and still getting bitched slapped by Oklahoma.

Keep it comin Clay, it's hilarious

[Prison Bitch]

KQuiefs1, Will you please quit spamming the board with your boring full articles nobody reads? It's called "a link". Not one person is going to read Clay Travis or even five words about a shit school like Miss State



You're 10x worse than DeBerg.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

that was a consolation game though

Saban is seriously the most butthurt, sore-loser bitch in college football. He never loses a game, his team just didn't try hard enough and there needs to be several rule changes to rectify the situation.

He's just lucky he's coaching at a "brand-name" program so he can cheat to his heart's content instead of getting exposed like he did at Michigan State.