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Old 12-19-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 06-12-2014, 01:56 PM   #5881
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Well if getting Joc Pederson is a realistic possibility, I'd be all in to get him. He's only 22 and is just destroying in AAA (of course we've heard that before, so there's that.)

I would argue that letting Davis or Holland go in a deal for him would make us both stronger today and in the future.
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Old 06-12-2014, 01:57 PM   #5882
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Based on what I was hearing from someone who works for the team, it wouldn't surprise me if flushing Grifol DID make a difference. He was in over his head, from what I was told. "Pedro doesn't talk about approach, just about taking good swings and having a swing that feels good" is a pretty direct quote.


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Old 06-12-2014, 02:03 PM   #5883
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Well if getting Joc Pederson is a realistic possibility, I'd be all in to get him. He's only 22 and is just destroying in AAA (of course we've heard that before, so there's that.)

I would argue that letting Davis or Holland go in a deal for him would make us both stronger today and in the future.
I've been on board with this since the rumors last season. Whether or not those were just internet GM's that saw a fit, or the two teams have actually had discussions, I have no clue. But that would be an excellent coup if we could pull that. Solves the RF gap we have after Aoki leaves, and I don't think anyone is gonna cry if we don't try to re-sign him. And let's us leverage one of our power arms into future help before the either get too expensive ($8M) or production starts to decline. This should be a lesson learned from the Soria era for DM.

As far as Headley goes, color me unimpressed. He had a great year in 2012, more of an outstanding second half if memory serves correct. Wanted a new deal that offseason, couldn't get anything worked out and has been pretty below average ever since. I see 2012 as more of an outlier for him than what to be expected. Not that our 3B looks promising, but I wouldn't go throwing pieces at SD for Headley and thinking it fixes anything either.
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Old 06-12-2014, 02:08 PM   #5884
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Pederson is 4th in OPS in the PCL at age 22. Of course, Nick Franklin is 13th at age 23 and plays middle Infield. Is he worth Greg Holland? Of course had the rumors of Butler been true, imagine how that would've benefitted us to plug Franklin in at 2B and save 32m on Getz-er, Infante
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Re: Sveum...

Based on what I was hearing from someone who works for the team, it wouldn't surprise me if flushing Grifol DID make a difference. He was in over his head, from what I was told. "Pedro doesn't talk about approach, just about taking good swings and having a swing that feels good" is a pretty direct quote.
Hey, I now feel like I'm qualified to be a major league hitting coach. Can someone let the Royals know I'm available?
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Re: Sveum...

Based on what I was hearing from someone who works for the team, it wouldn't surprise me if flushing Grifol DID make a difference. He was in over his head, from what I was told. "Pedro doesn't talk about approach, just about taking good swings and having a swing that feels good" is a pretty direct quote.
Conkinydink or not, I have not problems believing that Grifol never talked about approach. It was more than obvious none of our hitters had one.
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Old 06-12-2014, 02:35 PM   #5887
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Old 06-12-2014, 02:37 PM   #5888
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Pederson is 4th in OPS in the PCL at age 22. Of course, Nick Franklin is 13th at age 23 and plays middle Infield. Is he worth Greg Holland? Of course had the rumors of Butler been true, imagine how that would've benefitted us to plug Franklin in at 2B and save 32m on Getz-er, Infante
Of course, Nick Franklin has sucked hard at the MLB level for 3/4 of a season, whereas Pederson has not failed yet.

It's also fairly generous to call what Nick Franklin does "playing" middle infield.

At least give it a few more months before you start panicking about Infante. He's an established MLB vet who's coming off getting drilled in the face by a pitch and back spasms.
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I wouldn't trade bullpen pitching speed or defense for hitting. Hitting goes into slumps.
Almost nothing in baseball is less reliable than bullpen pitching. Feared closers routinely suck just 3 years later. You always sell high on relief pitching unless you really need them to compete in that particular year, which might actually describe us this season.
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Based on what I was hearing from someone who works for the team, it wouldn't surprise me if flushing Grifol DID make a difference. He was in over his head, from what I was told. "Pedro doesn't talk about approach, just about taking good swings and having a swing that feels good" is a pretty direct quote.


And what did they see in this guy again?
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Of course had the rumors of Butler been true, imagine how that would've benefitted us to plug Franklin in at 2B and save 32m on Getz-er, Infante
Do you like anyone on the team? You seem to gripe about Butler, Moose, Hosmer, Infante, Aoki, Escobar, etc quite regularly. Maybe Gordon and Salvy have been spared, but damn. If I just read your posts alone, I would think we were on pace to be the 2013 Houston Astros.

Are you projecting, perhaps? Were you the Chris Getz of little league and wear a pink tutu to a game and get laughed off the team (re:avid homophobia)?
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Almost nothing in baseball is less reliable than bullpen pitching. Feared closers routinely suck just 3 years later. You always sell high on relief pitching unless you really need them to compete in that particular year, which might actually describe us this season.

Yes. If you can trade a bullpen piece for an everyday player with all star abilities, you do it.

Teams are rarely interested in trading top 20 prospects for bullpen pieces, but the dodgers are kind of unique thy year.
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Do you like anyone on the team? You seem to gripe about Butler, Moose, Hosmer, Infante, Aoki, Escobar, etc quite regularly. Maybe Gordon and Salvy have been spared, but damn. If I just read your posts alone, I would think we were on pace to be the 2013 Houston Astros.

Are you projecting, perhaps? Were you the Chris Getz of little league and wear a pink tutu to a game and get laughed off the team (re:avid homophobia)?
I am pretty sure he was leading the charge sometime last season or in the offseason about Gordon being worthless. Something about his defense wasn't really valuable since he played LF.
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:11 PM   #5894
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I try to remain optimistic about the Royals. It is easy to be negative all of the time cheering for a team in a sport where a player that fails 70% of the time is considered good.



I also have only see one losing season so that might have something to do with my optimism.
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My hopes for this season are resting on the fact that we're only 2.5 out with such shit-tastic seasons from Hosmer, Butler, Infante, Aoki, and Moustakas. Honestly it's a miracle that we are where we are, and that we've managed to go 9-4 against the Cards, Jays, Yankees, and Indians.

If statistical trends are true, all should improve as the season progresses. And honestly, other than Davis/Holland, nobody's performing so well that they'll slump out badly.

Maybe we're just one of those teams who plays to the level of our competition?
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