****The Official NEW new new conference realignment & shit talk thread****

[Saul Good]

Let's do it.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

How about some real realignment news.
http://www.thesummitleague.org/sport...20413-orujoins

haha

[Discuss Thrower]

The "real" realignment news I saw on teh ShaggBevo was that "NCAA Division 4" would be broken down into conferences which are spelled out here: http://ncaa2014.us/pcd70.pdf "

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

The "real" realignment news I saw on teh ShaggBevo was that "NCAA Division 4" would be broken down into conferences which are spelled out here: http://ncaa2014.us/pcd70.pdf "

oh hell yea Northern Illinois

[Bambi]

Big 12 was 2-1 vs the SEC tonight. Who's next?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Big 12 was 2-1 vs the SEC tonight. Who's next?

Who was the team big bevo couldn't beat?

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Who was the team big bevo couldn't beat?

The Longhorns actually look pretty good this year. Only one loss with a win in their Big 12-SEC game the other night over Vandy.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Bambi

The Longhorns actually look pretty good this year. Only one loss with a win in their Big 12-SEC game the other night over Vandy.

Totally understand you avoiding the question. To be honest, I had no idea Mizzou won until well after the game, so I can't talk too much.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Totally understand you avoiding the question. To be honest, I had no idea Mizzou won until well after the game, so I can't talk too much.

I don't understand your question then. You asked who Bevo lost to and I told you they won. What am I missing?

[Bambi]

typical KU students…

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Bambi

I seriously doubt you're going to find many KU fans who would rather be playing WVU year in and year out than Mizzou. Kansas and Missouri are regionally accessible and obviously the rivalry that lasted for 100 years is much more entertaining than trying to just "start playing someone new" who you have no ties to.

Obviously WVU brings much more athletic accomplishment to the conference than Missouri but that doesn't mean KU fans like the setup. Most everyone preferred the original arrangement.

There were quite a few that felt like the Big 12 lost little in losing MU and aTm and adding WVU and TCU made the conference stronger. Granted, this might have just been bitterness over MU and aTm leaving but lets not pretend like a lot did not feel that way. This was not just KU fans, but fans from all the teams in the Big 12 felt this way. We will see in a few years how bad KU wants to renew the rivalry as the Border War should continue on as an OOC game every year (although it would hurt Missouri's overall SOS).

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by tredadda

There were quite a few that felt like the Big 12 lost little in losing MU and aTm and adding WVU and TCU made the conference stronger. Granted, this might have just been bitterness over MU and aTm leaving but lets not pretend like a lot did not feel that way. This was not just KU fans, but fans from all the teams in the Big 12 felt this way. We will see in a few years how bad KU wants to renew the rivalry as the Border War should continue on as an OOC game every year (although it would hurt Missouri's overall SOS).

I don't think Kansas is going to come knocking wanting to play football games anytime soon. The last thing they need when their program is a dumpster fire like it usually is would be a tough out of conference game.

I would be in favor of Missouri now and forever moving on from the former rivalry anyway. We are in an entirely new conference now, we are building new traditions and history. The old Big 8 was fun, but it's time to live in the present.

We don't really gain anything by beating a team that has only had a winning conference record 1 of the last 20-odd years. It will just reduce our SOS. We gave them a chance to continue playing each other, and they did the jilted ex-girlfriend act, so fine. We moved on and moved up. They can enjoy Wildcat fans filling up their stadium every other year if they need a rivalry fix in the fall.

I think we've got some interesting things brewing between ourselves and South Carolina, A&M, GA and FL. The neat thing about the SEC is that pretty much all of these teams are all rivals. All these series are hotly contested and competitive.

We don't need anything from them. Their football program has sunk back into the depths after raising the periscope for a few brief moments in the last decade. They are back to being the Duke or Kentucky of their conference. There really doesn't need to be any more ink wasted on Missouri/Kansas.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by tredadda

There were quite a few that felt like the Big 12 lost little in losing MU and aTm and adding WVU and TCU made the conference stronger. Granted, this might have just been bitterness over MU and aTm leaving but lets not pretend like a lot did not feel that way. This was not just KU fans, but fans from all the teams in the Big 12 felt this way. We will see in a few years how bad KU wants to renew the rivalry as the Border War should continue on as an OOC game every year (although it would hurt Missouri's overall SOS).

When you talk about accomplishment in football and basketball the Big 12 conference got stronger. We all know this. Missouri was dead weight which simply took up a spot on all the big boys' schedules.

Going forward who knows but the universal agreement is that KU fans would much rather be playing MU year in and year out than WVU.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Cochise

I don't think Kansas is going to come knocking wanting to play football games anytime soon. The last thing they need when their program is a dumpster fire like it usually is would be a tough out of conference game.

I would be in favor of Missouri now and forever moving on from the former rivalry anyway. We are in an entirely new conference now, we are building new traditions and history. The old Big 8 was fun, but it's time to live in the present.

We don't really gain anything by beating a team that has only had a winning conference record 1 of the last 20-odd years. It will just reduce our SOS. We gave them a chance to continue playing each other, and they did the jilted ex-girlfriend act, so fine. We moved on and moved up. They can enjoy Wildcat fans filling up their stadium every other year if they need a rivalry fix in the fall.

I think we've got some interesting things brewing between ourselves and South Carolina, A&M, GA and FL. The neat thing about the SEC is that pretty much all of these teams are all rivals. All these series are hotly contested and competitive.

We don't need anything from them. Their football program has sunk back into the depths after raising the periscope for a few brief moments in the last decade. They are back to being the Duke or Kentucky of their conference. There really doesn't need to be any more ink wasted on Missouri/Kansas.

I understand, but there is no reason why the Border War can't resume. Even in the SEC you see long standing OOC rivalries played every year. UGA-GT, USC-Clem, UF-FSU. Granted playing KU does not help our OOC, but it is still a longstanding rivalry in college football and one that should continue. The loss of rivalries is the saddest part of realignment although I do think Mizzou has gotten the better end of the realignment deal. It will be hard for us to establish rivalries in the SEC like we had with KU.

Think about it like the NFL, when they realigned and the AFC West lost Seattle no one was that bothered as the Seahawks were never true rivals to the other four teams. Now had the AFC West lost Denver, KC, Oakland, or SD it would have been a different story. Those rivalries are rooted in history and the beginning of the old AFL. You can't replace it with anyone else just like you can't replace the Border War with any other team.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Bambi

When you talk about accomplishment in football and basketball the Big 12 conference got stronger. We all know this. Missouri was dead weight which simply took up a spot on all the big boys' schedules.

Going forward who knows but the universal agreement is that KU fans would much rather be playing MU year in and year out than WVU.

WVU and TCU benefited in playing in weak conferences. Now that they are playing with the big boys they are starting to show their true quality. Lets see if either accomplish more than Missouri did in the Big 12 before stating they were better replacements for what was lost.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by tredadda

I understand, but there is no reason why the Border War can't resume. Even in the SEC you see long standing OOC rivalries played every year. UGA-GT, USC-Clem, UF-FSU. Granted playing KU does not help our OOC, but it is still a longstanding rivalry in college football and one that should continue. The loss of rivalries is the saddest part of realignment although I do think Mizzou has gotten the better end of the realignment deal. It will be hard for us to establish rivalries in the SEC like we had with KU.

Think about it like the NFL, when they realigned and the AFC West lost Seattle no one was that bothered as the Seahawks were never true rivals to the other four teams. Now had the AFC West lost Denver, KC, Oakland, or SD it would have been a different story. Those rivalries are rooted in history and the beginning of the old AFL. You can't replace it with anyone else just like you can't replace the Border War with any other team.

We could go burn down Gainesville or Columbia, SC...see what shakes out after that.