The Patriots make a mockery of the Herm Way of Football

FloridaMan88 · 12-09-2007, 10:58 PM

The Patriots showed once again today that the belief that you have to run the ball and have a balanced offense in order to win is an ancient myth... a myth that Herm still holds onto dearly.

This is why Herm will never be a championship caliber head coach in today's NFL.. he will never accept the fact that the great teams today are built around explosive, aggressive passing games and rely on these passing games as their primary source of offense.

The Patriots had NINE freaking rushing attempts all game and just 22 yards rushing for the game. Instead they relied on an aggressive passing game, often times spreading the field with 5 wide and attacking early and often downfield (yes actually passing the ball on FIRST down... a novel concept to Herm) with big passing plays.

Remember Herm often has said you can't just go back and pass every play and win in the NFL... well tell that to the Patriots. Tell that to Green Bay, Dallas and Indy... all teams that rely heavily on the pass.

As long as Herm Edwards is the coach of the Chiefs, this team will continue to be stale, out of date and never a serious contender in today's NFL.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-09-2007, 11:01 PM

Let me know when the Chiefs have a QB that's the same caliber of Brady and receivers in the same league as Moss, Stallworth and Welker.

Oh yeah, and an actual NFL O-line.

Then, we can talk.

el borracho · 12-09-2007, 11:01 PM

If you want to be the Patriots you had better get yourself a hall of fame QB. Right now, there are 3 in the league out of 32 teams so good luck with that.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-09-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

If you want to be the Patriots you had better get yourself a hall of fame QB. Right now, there are 3 in the league out of 32 teams so good luck with that.

Counting out Romo so quickly?

JBucc · 12-09-2007, 11:02 PM

Hey, a bad running game was right in line with Herm's gameplan today.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-09-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JBucc

Hey, a bad running game was right in line with Herm's gameplan today.

That's true. We're half-way there! Yay!

el borracho · 12-09-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Counting out Romo so quickly?

If Romo were injured tomorrow and never played again would he be a hall of fame QB?

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-09-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

If Romo were injured tomorrow and never played again would he be a hall of fame QB?

Just kidding.

From the announcer's calls lately, you'd think he was already enshrined.

el borracho · 12-09-2007, 11:06 PM

Ah, I should have known you were smarter than that. Carry on, then.

Mecca · 12-09-2007, 11:07 PM

It just illustrates that in todays game you no longer set up the pass by running.....you set up the run by passing.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-09-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

Ah, I should have known you were smarter than that. Carry on, then.

Thanks for giving me credit.

No one else does.

FloridaMan88 · 12-09-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

If you want to be the Patriots you had better get yourself a hall of fame QB. Right now, there are 3 in the league out of 32 teams so good luck with that.

Remember Herm doesn't want a QB like Brady, or Manning or Romo that makes plays... he wants a "game manager" at QB (see Chad Pennington and Damon Huard). That is translation for a QB who has no problem handing the ball of 90% of the time.

You will never win in today's NFL with that type of QB.

Hootie · 12-09-2007, 11:11 PM

Some teams can win with the run...teams like Minnesota, Pittsburgh and even Indianapolis. The problem with our philosophy is we don't have the personnel to run the ball...our line is awful in both pass protection and run protection.

We can't use the pass to set up the run, and we can't use the run to set up the pass. In other words, we were ****ed from the beginning.

Maybe Huard was the team MVP this year?

**doomy3** · 12-09-2007, 11:12 PM

This thread is retarted.

FloridaMan88 · 12-09-2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Some teams can win with the run...teams like Minnesota, Pittsburgh and even Indianapolis. The problem with our philosophy is we don't have the personnel to run the ball...our line is awful in both pass protection and run protection.

We can't use the pass to set up the run, and we can't use the run to set up the pass. In other words, we were ****ed from the beginning.

Maybe Huard was the team MVP this year?

Minnesota is 7-6 and was destroyed by Green Bay a few weeks back. In that game you had the Packers... a pass first team, score 30+ points and shut-out the "run first" Vikings you are refering to.

Pittsburgh is a run first team that was completely destroyed by the Patriots today... again a run first team being destroyed by a pass first team.

And calling the Colts, led by Peyton Manning and that passing game a team "winning with the run" is laughable.

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