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JakeF · 01-07-2020, 06:47 PM

Are the improvements to the Kansas City Chiefs defense for real?

BY ERIC EAGER
JAN 6, 2020
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

A round into the NFL playoffs, and a lot of storylines have emerged. Is the Patriots’ dynasty over? Should the Saints run it back… again, after another heartbreaking loss? Are the Titans for real?

One trend that emerged down the stretch of the 2019 regular season was the emergence of the Kansas City Chiefs defense under new coordinator Steve Spagnuolo. Since their last regular-season loss, a 35-32 defeat at the hands of the Tennessee Titans, only seven teams have allowed a better expected points added per play than the Chiefs (-0.09), and only six teams were better against the pass (-0.13).

Tyrann Mathieu was the AFC Defensive Player of the Month in December, while Juan Thornhill was one of the most productive rookies in the NFL this season, accumulating over a third of a win above replacement in over 1,000 snaps before his Week 17 ACL injury. Second-year cornerback Charvarius Ward had a very good season, allowing less than 50% of the passes into his coverage to be completed, breaking up five passes, and intercepting two more.

Frank Clark came with a big price tag (and my skepticism), but eventually produced results next to upcoming free agent Chris Jones, generating 47 total pressures and 30 stops while battling injuries. The question as the Chiefs go into their third playoff in four years as a top-two seed in the AFC: Is their defense resurgence for real? We look into this question below:

COVERAGE IS NOT STABLE, BUT HERE’S SOME ENCOURAGING DATA

At PFF, we chart how a quarterback comes to his decision to throw the ball, and the Chiefs are the fifth-best team in the NFL when the quarterback throws the ball on his first read (-0.05; only nine teams have allowed better than a 0.0 EPA on such throws, versus 11 overall). On admissible plays, the Chiefs were pretty good at forcing other teams off that first read, too, making them do so about a fourth of the time (11th-best in the league).

Early in the year they struggled covering secondary-read players like running backs, with Damien Wilson, Anthony Hitchens, and Ben Niemann all allowing over a 105.0 passer rating into their coverage for the season’s first 10 weeks and combining for 734 yards allowed. Since that time, in large part due to the play of Mathieu, Thornhill, and Daniel Sorenson, those three have allowed only 373 passing yards into their coverage, despite playing players like Austin Ekeler (twice), Josh Jacobs, James White, Tarik Cohen, and Phillip Lindsay in those games.

While a team’s ability to play well on their opponent’s first read is likely unstable long-term (we have only charted this data 2016-present), and very correlated with the quality of opposing offenses faced, the Chiefs have faced a top-10 schedule this season, and their improvement in underneath coverage has been noticeable enough to make their pass defense something that is as real as pass defense can be (read: something that won’t keep them from winning).

IS THE PASS RUSH GOOD ENOUGH? DOES IT MATTER?

After leading the NFL in pass-rushing grade last season, but losing Justin Houston and Dee Ford and changing defensive schemes, there were a lot of questions as to how, when applicable, the Chiefs would put heat on the quarterback. Clark was acquired from Seattle; Emmanuel Ogbah, Alex Okafor, and Khalen Saunders came in as well; and the defense did not turn in the kind of performance it did a season ago rushing the passer, earning only the 29th-best pass-rushing grade in the league. Jones did his part, generating 58 total pressures. The Chiefs were more productive at the linebacker position as well, with Wilson and Reggie Ragland each generating over 10 pressures. However, injuries to Ogbah and Okafor left third-year pro Tanoh Kpassagnon as the third-leading pressure producer on the team with only 31 (last year three Chiefs had over 50, and four over 35).

That said, we know pass rush generally doesn’t matter as much as coverage does, and quarterbacks control their pressure rates more than anything. Tom Brady neutralized the Chiefs defense in the AFC Championship Game a year ago by getting the ball out quickly and targeting what were (at the time) weak members of the Chiefs secondary. In their upcoming matchup against Houston, they should be able to pester Deshaun Watson enough to play good enough pass defense to get them into a matchup with Baltimore, which presents its own challenges.

RUN DEFENSE

Among the things that matter in the NFL, run defense is the least important. That said, the Chiefs, should the AFC favorites win this weekend, will be facing a different animal in the Baltimore Ravens and their ground attack, led by Lamar Jackson. The Chiefs have some good players on the interior of their defense in Jones (73.6 run defense grade), Saunders (71.9), and Mike Pennel (77.1), but have been victimized to the tune of 206.7 rushing yards against in their 2019 matchups against the remaining AFC playoff teams, meaning they’ll need to be even better than normal at limiting early-down passing in order to keep teams from short-yardage situations, where they might struggle to produce negative-EPA plays for their opposing offenses.

THE PLAY-CALLER

Simply put, after a slow start, Spagnuolo has been one of the highest-graded defensive play-callers this season, and has turned the Chiefs into a defense that is substantially better than the one they played with in 2017 and 2018. After a few seasons in which Bob Sutton did not utilize the Chiefs talent to the best of its ability, Spagnuolo, as far as scheme uniqueness is concerned, stands out. The transition from a 3-4 scheme that utilized a lot of man coverage to a 4-3 scheme that is more multiple in its coverage has gone swimmingly so far, and if that continues Kansas City will be far more formidable on the defensive side of the ball than they were going into the 2018 playoffs.

In conclusion, the Chiefs defense is indeed much improved. While defense doesn’t win championships, the lack of a competent defense can (and, in the case of the 2018 Chiefs, did) keep a team from reaching its postseason goals. To the credit of Brett Veach, Andy Reid, and Spagnuolo, the Chiefs have a defense they can win with, and it will be interesting to see how it holds up the next few weeks.

Somes charts etc at webside, follow the link: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-kansas-...s-real-or-fake

JakeF · 01-07-2020, 06:52 PM

Another example, Nelson started doing better away from our coaching staff.

RK - 7. STEVEN NELSON, PITTSBURGH STEELERS
(https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-ran...hrough-week-17)

During the 2019 offseason, Pittsburgh searched for a corner to play opposite Joe Haden and erase the disappointment of Artie Burns. And by signing the former Chiefs cornerback, the Steelers got just what they were looking for.

Steven Nelson has made an immediate impact by quickly adapting to the combination of the Steelers' man- and zone-coverage schemes. While the Steelers have three cornerbacks ranked in PFF’s top 25, Nelson has emerged as the team's highest-graded player at the position. He is tied at 20th among his peers — with teammate Joe Haden — with a forced incompletion rate of 15.2%, and he allowed only 0.86 yards per coverage snap that ranks 17th among the 135 qualifying players at the position.

In press coverage, Nelson displays short-space quickness with long-range speed on deep routes, and his patience at the line of scrimmage allows him to prevent a free release for receivers who want access on downfield routes. He’s earned the league’s seventh–best coverage grade (80.3) while allowing opposing quarterbacks to complete 51.5% of their passes (11th) for a 73.3 passer rating (tied with Marcus Peters for 18th).

Nelson has helped transform the Steelers' secondary from last year’s 18th-ranked coverage unit (75.8) into the third-highest graded group in 2019 (85.8); he proved to be just one of many moves made by the Steelers to help rebuild a new version of their fabled Steel Curtain.

Prison Bitch · 01-07-2020, 06:57 PM

I’ll let you know in a few weeks

Chiefs4TheWin · 01-07-2020, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I’ll let you know in a few weeks

Agreed.

King_Chief_Fan · 01-07-2020, 07:09 PM

Spags has been a pleasant surprise

Wallcrawler · 01-07-2020, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I’ll let you know in a few weeks

Typical stupidass post.

You dont need a few weeks to understand that this D is light years better than last year.

If Andy and the offense produce, we are winning the SB.

Chiefs4TheWin · 01-07-2020, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Typical stupidass post.

You dont need a few weeks to understand that this D is light years better than last year.

If Andy and the offense produce, we are winning the SB.

Damn I want that enthusiasm! I'm so sad I don't have the hype.

**DaFace** · 01-07-2020, 07:54 PM

Hot take.

xztop123 · 01-07-2020, 07:57 PM

i didn’t think our pass rush was that good last year.

Wallcrawler · 01-07-2020, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop123

i didn’t think our pass rush was that good last year.

Brady went untouched save for the CJ shoulder slap that was called for roughing.

bobbything · 01-07-2020, 08:49 PM

I was not a fan of getting rid of Ford and Houston. Still wish we had them. That said, I was wrong about this defense. Bully to Spags.

T-post Tom · 01-07-2020, 09:15 PM

Good article. Thank you for posting. Defense definitely trending up. I've been critical of Spags in the past, but I'm very happy with the current state of affairs on the defensive side of the ball. Like everyone else here, hoping the trend continues upward and contributes to a Super Bowl victory.

TambaBerry · 01-07-2020, 09:37 PM

As far as the pass rushing section. He does know that we've lost two starting defensive ends that skew those numbers a different way

Red Dawg · 01-07-2020, 09:41 PM

Not much else can be said. Spags had done a great job. They got better.

kcxiv · 01-07-2020, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs4TheWin

Damn I want that enthusiasm! I'm so sad I don't have the hype.

because the years and years of Chiefs blunders, **** ups and choke job, have ****ed us all up mentally. We just dont have that full confidence that us as fans deserve! lol

01-07-2020, 06:47 PM
JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	Sutton was terrible, Spags has made a big difference Are the improvements to the Kansas City Chiefs defense for real? BY ERIC EAGER JAN 6, 2020 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS A round into the NFL playoffs, and a lot of storylines have emerged. Is the Patriots’ dynasty over? Should the Saints run it back… again, after another heartbreaking loss? Are the Titans for real? One trend that emerged down the stretch of the 2019 regular season was the emergence of the Kansas City Chiefs defense under new coordinator Steve Spagnuolo. Since their last regular-season loss, a 35-32 defeat at the hands of the Tennessee Titans, only seven teams have allowed a better expected points added per play than the Chiefs (-0.09), and only six teams were better against the pass (-0.13). Tyrann Mathieu was the AFC Defensive Player of the Month in December, while Juan Thornhill was one of the most productive rookies in the NFL this season, accumulating over a third of a win above replacement in over 1,000 snaps before his Week 17 ACL injury. Second-year cornerback Charvarius Ward had a very good season, allowing less than 50% of the passes into his coverage to be completed, breaking up five passes, and intercepting two more. Frank Clark came with a big price tag (and my skepticism), but eventually produced results next to upcoming free agent Chris Jones, generating 47 total pressures and 30 stops while battling injuries. The question as the Chiefs go into their third playoff in four years as a top-two seed in the AFC: Is their defense resurgence for real? We look into this question below: COVERAGE IS NOT STABLE, BUT HERE’S SOME ENCOURAGING DATA At PFF, we chart how a quarterback comes to his decision to throw the ball, and the Chiefs are the fifth-best team in the NFL when the quarterback throws the ball on his first read (-0.05; only nine teams have allowed better than a 0.0 EPA on such throws, versus 11 overall). On admissible plays, the Chiefs were pretty good at forcing other teams off that first read, too, making them do so about a fourth of the time (11th-best in the league). Early in the year they struggled covering secondary-read players like running backs, with Damien Wilson, Anthony Hitchens, and Ben Niemann all allowing over a 105.0 passer rating into their coverage for the season’s first 10 weeks and combining for 734 yards allowed. Since that time, in large part due to the play of Mathieu, Thornhill, and Daniel Sorenson, those three have allowed only 373 passing yards into their coverage, despite playing players like Austin Ekeler (twice), Josh Jacobs, James White, Tarik Cohen, and Phillip Lindsay in those games. While a team’s ability to play well on their opponent’s first read is likely unstable long-term (we have only charted this data 2016-present), and very correlated with the quality of opposing offenses faced, the Chiefs have faced a top-10 schedule this season, and their improvement in underneath coverage has been noticeable enough to make their pass defense something that is as real as pass defense can be (read: something that won’t keep them from winning). IS THE PASS RUSH GOOD ENOUGH? DOES IT MATTER? After leading the NFL in pass-rushing grade last season, but losing Justin Houston and Dee Ford and changing defensive schemes, there were a lot of questions as to how, when applicable, the Chiefs would put heat on the quarterback. Clark was acquired from Seattle; Emmanuel Ogbah, Alex Okafor, and Khalen Saunders came in as well; and the defense did not turn in the kind of performance it did a season ago rushing the passer, earning only the 29th-best pass-rushing grade in the league. Jones did his part, generating 58 total pressures. The Chiefs were more productive at the linebacker position as well, with Wilson and Reggie Ragland each generating over 10 pressures. However, injuries to Ogbah and Okafor left third-year pro Tanoh Kpassagnon as the third-leading pressure producer on the team with only 31 (last year three Chiefs had over 50, and four over 35). That said, we know pass rush generally doesn’t matter as much as coverage does, and quarterbacks control their pressure rates more than anything. Tom Brady neutralized the Chiefs defense in the AFC Championship Game a year ago by getting the ball out quickly and targeting what were (at the time) weak members of the Chiefs secondary. In their upcoming matchup against Houston, they should be able to pester Deshaun Watson enough to play good enough pass defense to get them into a matchup with Baltimore, which presents its own challenges. RUN DEFENSE Among the things that matter in the NFL, run defense is the least important. That said, the Chiefs, should the AFC favorites win this weekend, will be facing a different animal in the Baltimore Ravens and their ground attack, led by Lamar Jackson. The Chiefs have some good players on the interior of their defense in Jones (73.6 run defense grade), Saunders (71.9), and Mike Pennel (77.1), but have been victimized to the tune of 206.7 rushing yards against in their 2019 matchups against the remaining AFC playoff teams, meaning they’ll need to be even better than normal at limiting early-down passing in order to keep teams from short-yardage situations, where they might struggle to produce negative-EPA plays for their opposing offenses. THE PLAY-CALLER Simply put, after a slow start, Spagnuolo has been one of the highest-graded defensive play-callers this season, and has turned the Chiefs into a defense that is substantially better than the one they played with in 2017 and 2018. After a few seasons in which Bob Sutton did not utilize the Chiefs talent to the best of its ability, Spagnuolo, as far as scheme uniqueness is concerned, stands out. The transition from a 3-4 scheme that utilized a lot of man coverage to a 4-3 scheme that is more multiple in its coverage has gone swimmingly so far, and if that continues Kansas City will be far more formidable on the defensive side of the ball than they were going into the 2018 playoffs. In conclusion, the Chiefs defense is indeed much improved. While defense doesn’t win championships, the lack of a competent defense can (and, in the case of the 2018 Chiefs, did) keep a team from reaching its postseason goals. To the credit of Brett Veach, Andy Reid, and Spagnuolo, the Chiefs have a defense they can win with, and it will be interesting to see how it holds up the next few weeks. Somes charts etc at webside, follow the link: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-kansas-...s-real-or-fake
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JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	Another example, Nelson started doing better away from our coaching staff. RK - 7. STEVEN NELSON, PITTSBURGH STEELERS (https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-ran...hrough-week-17) During the 2019 offseason, Pittsburgh searched for a corner to play opposite Joe Haden and erase the disappointment of Artie Burns. And by signing the former Chiefs cornerback, the Steelers got just what they were looking for. Steven Nelson has made an immediate impact by quickly adapting to the combination of the Steelers' man- and zone-coverage schemes. While the Steelers have three cornerbacks ranked in PFF’s top 25, Nelson has emerged as the team's highest-graded player at the position. He is tied at 20th among his peers — with teammate Joe Haden — with a forced incompletion rate of 15.2%, and he allowed only 0.86 yards per coverage snap that ranks 17th among the 135 qualifying players at the position. In press coverage, Nelson displays short-space quickness with long-range speed on deep routes, and his patience at the line of scrimmage allows him to prevent a free release for receivers who want access on downfield routes. He’s earned the league’s seventh–best coverage grade (80.3) while allowing opposing quarterbacks to complete 51.5% of their passes (11th) for a 73.3 passer rating (tied with Marcus Peters for 18th). Nelson has helped transform the Steelers' secondary from last year’s 18th-ranked coverage unit (75.8) into the third-highest graded group in 2019 (85.8); he proved to be just one of many moves made by the Steelers to help rebuild a new version of their fabled Steel Curtain.
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King_Chief_Fan Praise Him Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: none ya Casino cash: $4755486	Spags has been a pleasant surprise __________________ No Jesus No Peace Know Jesus Know Peace Ephesians 2:8-10 English Standard Version (ESV) 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
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bobbything Distributor of Pain Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $8644900	I was not a fan of getting rid of Ford and Houston. Still wish we had them. That said, I was wrong about this defense. Bully to Spags. __________________ "It is not enough that I succeed; everyone else must fail."
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T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1927293	Good article. Thank you for posting. Defense definitely trending up. I've been critical of Spags in the past, but I'm very happy with the current state of affairs on the defensive side of the ball. Like everyone else here, hoping the trend continues upward and contributes to a Super Bowl victory. __________________ You seem nice!
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TambaBerry MVP Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $-1334459	As far as the pass rushing section. He does know that we've lost two starting defensive ends that skew those numbers a different way
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