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Old 03-10-2025, 04:36 PM   Topic Starter
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Old 03-10-2025, 04:37 PM   #2
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Old 03-10-2025, 04:44 PM   #3
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The 49ers are saying the same about Moore..

This is why great teams don’t lean heavily on Free Agency.
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Old 03-10-2025, 05:23 PM   #4
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The 49ers are saying the same about Moore..

This is why great teams don’t lean heavily on Free Agency.
Yep. You'd never see a great team that played in 5 of the last 6 SBs and won 3 of them making crazy moves like we just did with Moore. Guess this is why we always suck.
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Old 03-10-2025, 05:35 PM   #5
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The 49ers are saying the same about Moore..

This is why great teams don’t lean heavily on Free Agency.
Felt like 2/$20 was a given as FA approached for Moore.

So we overpaid the 'baseline' by about 50%.

This feels like damn near twice what an accepted baseline would've been for Wharton, does it not?

FAs are always a bit overpaid even when they aren't. But if we're talking degrees, this is a massive one isn't it?
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Felt like 2/$20 was a given as FA approached for Moore.

So we overpaid the 'baseline' by about 50%.

This feels like damn near twice what an accepted baseline would've been for Wharton, does it not?

FAs are always a bit overpaid even when they aren't. But if we're talking degrees, this is a massive one isn't it?
There was an espn article about the most "overrated" FAs and Wharton was one of five based on his gaudy sack production this last season but pedestrian pass-rush-win-rate.

It was crazy to see that he was somehow an "overrated" free agent.

Now it makes more sense.
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Old 03-10-2025, 05:50 PM   #7
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Felt like 2/$20 was a given as FA approached for Moore.

So we overpaid the 'baseline' by about 50%.

This feels like damn near twice what an accepted baseline would've been for Wharton, does it not?

FAs are always a bit overpaid even when they aren't. But if we're talking degrees, this is a massive one isn't it?
I don’t think you can argue against it. I know it’s the nature of FA and exploding salary cap, but his APY is now higher than Vita Vea, Cam Hayward, and Ed Oliver lol

It’s hard to find a legit comp for him being so undersized but I guess the closest I can see is Odighizuwa. He just got an extension and he’s sitting at $20m. On the surface, Wharton had more sacks (6.5 vs 4.5), more TFLs (7 vs 5), and fewer QB hits (11 vs 23). He’s been solid against the run despite his size.

I don’t have access to more advanced pass rushing statistics, but if Wharton proves to be the same guy he was this past year for us consistently (and without a Chris Jones next to him), this should end up be in an OK signing.
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Old 03-10-2025, 04:53 PM   #8
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No such thing as overpaid after today. The market has changed.
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26, undrafted from small school. Good on him.
Yep, generational wealth secured. I’m happy for him.

He was a great UDFA, cost us basically nothing, outperformed the little resources we did use on him, never got in trouble, didn’t appear to be any sort of locker room cancer.

Since he went to the Panthers I can also continue rooting for him.
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