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Old 02-09-2025, 08:55 PM   Topic Starter
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Fire Andy Heck
That's literally all.

****er has to go. He's spearheaded two of the worst O-Line collapses in Superbowl history.
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Old 02-09-2025, 08:56 PM   #2
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take a break man this isn’t it
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Old 02-09-2025, 09:30 PM   #3
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take a break man this isn’t it
yeah. this isnt it.

getting dicked in TWO superbowls because you can't come up with a plan to mitigate the rush with an extra week to spare is also... not it.
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Old 02-09-2025, 09:42 PM   #4
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take a break man this isn’t it
It.... kinda might be.

This O-Line talentwise is NOT as bad as it performed tonight. Yet, it was basically the same performance as SB55 in terms of pressure. How does that even happen?
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Old 02-09-2025, 09:47 PM   #5
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It.... kinda might be.

This O-Line talentwise is NOT as bad as it performed tonight. Yet, it was basically the same performance as SB55 in terms of pressure. How does that even happen?
When you play in the Super Bowl against superior defensive lines, and you have a backup line, you will never survive and that's what happened in 55 against Tampa Bay. We had three starters out. This Super Bowl we had a duct tape offensive line with two mediocre at best tackles. It is about talent and we don't have it at our tackle positions.Nuff said.
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When you play in the Super Bowl against superior defensive lines, and you have a backup line, you will never survive and that's what happened in 55 against Tampa Bay. We had three starters out. This Super Bowl we had a duct tape offensive line with two mediocre at best tackles. It is about talent and we don't have it at our tackle positions.Nuff said.
Jawaan has been fine minus the penalties. Trey has been fine. Creed has been fine.

If you want to complain about Caliendo and Thuney, fine. But we got pressure from EVERY angle this game, with only 4 rushers.

Can we do better? Sure. But there is NO excuse for the O-Line performance tonight. The talent difference is negligible and we got historically worked.
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When you play in the Super Bowl against superior defensive lines, and you have a backup line, you will never survive and that's what happened in 55 against Tampa Bay. We had three starters out. This Super Bowl we had a duct tape offensive line with two mediocre at best tackles. It is about talent and we don't have it at our tackle positions.Nuff said.
Funny how Washington had former Chiefs Wylie and Alegretti on the OL as well as a rookie 3rd rounder at LT and they didn’t look nearly this bad with a rookie QB. Sounds like a BS excuse.

Clearly there are multiple issues here, and yes the talent is one of them. Mahomes is also a mess right now. The OL coaching and offensive coaching as a whole is a mess. The play calls suck. The offense is stale and unimaginative right now. I don’t know what the best answer is right now or what the biggest problem is, but I do know Andy Heck is at least part of the problem.
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Funny how Washington had former Chiefs Wylie and Alegretti on the OL as well as a rookie 3rd rounder at LT and they didn’t look nearly this bad with a rookie QB. Sounds like a BS excuse.

Clearly there are multiple issues here, and yes the talent is one of them. Mahomes is also a mess right now. The OL coaching and offensive coaching as a whole is a mess. The play calls suck. The offense is stale and unimaginative right now. I don’t know what the best answer is right now or what the biggest problem is, but I do know Andy Heck is at least part of the problem.
They also lost Sam cosmi their best oline man in the Detroit game before they faced the Eagles. Teams with far less talent have a better showing
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When you play in the Super Bowl against superior defensive lines, and you have a backup line, you will never survive and that's what happened in 55 against Tampa Bay. We had three starters out. This Super Bowl we had a duct tape offensive line with two mediocre at best tackles. It is about talent and we don't have it at our tackle positions.Nuff said.
So where is the gameplan to mitigate this obvious weekness? You think maybe, running the ball on first and second down, then a screen on thrid and 5 might have helped? Yep, tell them mfers on the left side to block like nomal and when they beat you get ready to block the second level we throwing screens.
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I agree! Sometimes you can't make lemonade out of really bad lemons and this is all on Andy in my opinion. And we're not talking Andy as in "Heck" here.
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I’ll tell you what, it sure helped when we brought Joe Cullen in as d-line coach. The defense went to another level when came onboard.
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Connor embree has gotten so much shit. And what do you know, you give him two rookies with talent and they excel.

We didn’t give him talent to work with. He does not wear this
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Name a single OT not named Fisher who has developed under Heck

People refuse to cast blame where it’s warranted. People will say Veach is the best GM then turn around and excuse Heck saying he hasn’t been given the talent to work with. Which is it? Is Veach not finding the players or is Heck not developing them? You can’t absolve both of them. Yeah it’s hard, but that’s the job.
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Name a single OT not named Fisher who has developed under Heck

People refuse to cast blame where it’s warranted. People will say Veach is the best GM then turn around and excuse Heck saying he hasn’t been given the talent to work with. Which is it? Is Veach not finding the players or is Heck not developing them? You can’t absolve both of them. Yeah it’s hard, but that’s the job.
It’s a combination of both. I would think heck would be on the evaluation process. He should bear some responsibility in who’s been drafted.
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Name a single OT not named Fisher who has developed under Heck

People refuse to cast blame where it’s warranted. People will say Veach is the best GM then turn around and excuse Heck saying he hasn’t been given the talent to work with. Which is it? Is Veach not finding the players or is Heck not developing them? You can’t absolve both of them. Yeah it’s hard, but that’s the job.
He isn't wrong, Run

Heck has been living on borrowed time, he's comfy binky Reid needs to get rid of and grow up
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