Doubt they change it, but I'll bet the NFL re-thinks allowing tush push

[RealSNR]

All this consternation and bullshit from blowhards everywhere about the 4th and inches play has me thinking about the future of this play. And man, if we're already getting Schefter and Florio talking about changing the rules to help teams beat the Chiefs, we may as well make it fair across the board, right?

The tush push hides the ballcarrier and makes it tough to view and make a decision on ball placement when it's close. I do believe the NFL wants to get the calls right, but when they make the decision in the game and rule it too close to call so they can't overturn it, people scream bloody murder. I think by creating a damn rugby pile when every inch really matters, you're just going to continue inviting this crap to fester in discussions of very important games. Shit, we're up against the emperors of this stupid play. What if one of them is close like this again? The Eagles REALLY hide Hurts on these plays, and he goes pretty low. They're going to convert the play a whole bunch, but a few of them might be close. What then will happen?

And in addition to it just being a stupid ****ing play with no chance of unpredictability, I just hate it. And for people who say, "Just learn to stop the play and offenses won't run it" you're allowing offensive players to push each other, but you're saying defenders can't meet force with force. Nobody can stop that shit if you're giving an unfair advantage to one side of the ball.

[DRM08]

I hate that they don't blow the whistle quick enough, which allows the OL guys to push a dude forward even after he runs into a brick wall. Meanwhile the refs go out of their way to give offensive players forward progress if anyone pushes them backwards.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by DRM08

I hate that they don't blow the whistle quick enough, which allows the OL guys to push a dude forward even after he runs into a brick wall. Meanwhile the refs go out of their way to give offensive players forward progress if anyone pushes them backwards.

Classic KC forward progress anxiety diagnosed

[DrunkBassGuitar]

Originally Posted by DRM08

I hate that they don't blow the whistle quick enough, which allows the OL guys to push a dude forward even after he runs into a brick wall. Meanwhile the refs go out of their way to give offensive players forward progress if anyone pushes them backwards.

The NFL should be embarrassed they had to threaten to give the eagles a touchdown because the commanders kept trying to get advantage during that dumbass play

[DrunkBassGuitar]

We were stopping it all night and the Bills kept ****ing the chicken and the response from fans is that the refs were not being fair lol I really hate that dumbass play and I hope it gets banned after we do the same thing to the Philly shitbirds

[Iowanian]

The tush push will go on until hurts or Allen get theismsned in a pile.

[ptlyon]

But, yeah, posted in a different thread that it's going to have to be abolished. All of yesterday was a perfect example. The eagles Redskins goal line fiasco and then our game. Too much bullshit prolonging the game, and a lot of the time there's an argument with the spot, even in today's camera rich environment.

Kill it.

[Straight, No Chaser]

The Bills ran it last night but Philly perfected it. Stopped the Bills a couple times; not stopping Philly.

[Rasputin]

The only thing fair is to cheat the Chiefs. / Chiefs haters.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Straight, No Chaser

The Bills ran it last night but Philly perfected it. Stopped the Bills a couple times; not stopping Philly.

We'll see about that. Buffalo was 28 for 30 on the season before last night. Romo said even the 2 "failed" plays still led to first downs on the next play. So Buffalo was pretty much a 100% conversion rate in these situations until yesterday.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Straight, No Chaser

The Bills ran it last night but Philly perfected it. Stopped the Bills a couple times; not stopping Philly.

I'm not so sure we can't stop it. I mean I think with Spags we can have a strategy against it. I think we can do it. Most importantly let's keep them off 3rd and 1 fourth and 1 or goal to go.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by Rasputin

I'm not so sure we can't stop it. I mean I think with Spags we can have a strategy against it. I think we can do it. Most importantly let's keep them off 3rd and 1 fourth and 1 or goal to go.

Allen was easier to stop because he's a big guy that goes over the top of the pile, while Hurts is more finesse and he'll just go underneath the pile to get the yards.

[Chiefnj2]

The whistle should blow after the initial "push". It's often a stalemate for a few seconds and they let it continue for some reason.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The whistle should blow after the initial "push". It's often a stalemate for a few seconds and they let it continue for some reason.

hard to totally blow it dead when a lot of times the QB is not being touched by a defender.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by lcarus

That stuff on the 4th down was the play of the game. Whoever the main catalyst was for that stop is a beast.

Tbh we were stuffing that play a lot more than just that once. I think we prevented them from getting a 1st down or 2-point conversion like three or four times against that play.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's just the thing. The tush push is a telegraphed play. There's no surprise, everybody knows you're going to do it.

Therefore, there's no real reason it HAS to be the QB that runs it. Put someone in there that has good lower body strength, out some big guys behind him, and run it.

The Chiefs could run it with a TE if they wanted to.

Yeah, the Ravens don’t run sneaks with Lamar. They bring in Mandrews like we used to use Bell.

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

Allen was easier to stop because he's a big guy that just went over the top of the pile, while Hurts is more finesse and he'll just go underneath the pile to get the yards.

Technique has something to do with it but Hurts is a decent-sized guy and he’s really powerful. I think he squats 600 or 700 pounds.