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Looks like we catch a break not having to face Goedert. He's out for the next four weeks with a fractured forearm.

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Old 11-06-2023, 07:29 AM   #2
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They're not as good as last year, but they'll get up for us... expect a close, tough game
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Pretty much stating the obvious, but our offense needs to figure it out against a tough defense, albeit not as tough as last years.
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Old 11-06-2023, 08:29 AM   #7
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I think the Chiefs are going to have a tough game.

I really mean it when I say I'm not remotely sure how the Chiefs are going to score. This Philly defensive line is monstrous, deep, with all kinds of veterans savvy and youthful athleticism. I like their linebackers and I think their secondary is not as horrendous now as it's been for part of the season, but the strength is their defensive line, which is probably the league's best. We couldn't even hold off a Dolphins or Broncos DL that was half as talented; I would just get your expectations right. Mahomes is going to get beat up this game.

This is why I'm not a coach.

Now, here's what I do know. Andy Reid is very skilled off a bye, and is also skilled at playing DLs that dial up a ton of pressure. He has all sorts of tricks in his bag, and I do think that secondary can be picked apart by a smart QB, and Mahomes is probably the league's smartest. But I don't know if the Chiefs have the weapons downfield to get the job done. It's going to be really hard to score.

On the other side of the field, I dread owning AJ Brown in fantasy this week because the Chiefs' specialty is taking away a teams' #1 WR threat. I actually don't think Devonte Smith can do a ton of damage this week either -- this Chiefs defense's strength is the secondary, Dave Merritt has everybody in that secondary playing well, and Spags is 9-0 this season.

Swift, however, has been looking exactly like the kind of RB that the Chiefs have struggled with this season. He's slippery, takes more than one tackler, and he runs behind the league's best OL.

The Chiefs defense has given up 21, 9, 10, 20, 20, 8, 17, 24, and 21 points this season. Only the Broncos have had the answer for the Chiefs team, and sure enough, the Broncos were the only team bold enough (and had few enough other options) to just run it straight at us all game.

Personally, I don't think the Eagles are super well coached (they're just more talented), and if they were well coached, they'd run it right at us all game with Swift, Hurts, Penny, and Gainwell. I think that's where you can get us. It's our lone weak spot, and it serves the dual purpose of keeping Mahomes off the field. And not every team can do that, but the Eagles talent is so absurd everywhere that they can.

You are 0-9 this season, however, if you bet against Spags. I just think this is the league's best offense. I expect an output of about 24 points or so.

Can the Chiefs score 24+ points against the Eagles? Ehhhhhhhh
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I think the Chiefs are going to have a tough game.

I really mean it when I say I'm not remotely sure how the Chiefs are going to score. This Philly defensive line is monstrous, deep, with all kinds of veterans savvy and youthful athleticism. I like their linebackers and I think their secondary is not as horrendous now as it's been for part of the season, but the strength is their defensive line, which is probably the league's best. We couldn't even hold off a Dolphins or Broncos DL that was half as talented; I would just get your expectations right. Mahomes is going to get beat up this game.

This is why I'm not a coach.

Now, here's what I do know. Andy Reid is very skilled off a bye, and is also skilled at playing DLs that dial up a ton of pressure. He has all sorts of tricks in his bag, and I do think that secondary can be picked apart by a smart QB, and Mahomes is probably the league's smartest. But I don't know if the Chiefs have the weapons downfield to get the job done. It's going to be really hard to score.

On the other side of the field, I dread owning AJ Brown in fantasy this week because the Chiefs' specialty is taking away a teams' #1 WR threat. I actually don't think Devonte Smith can do a ton of damage this week either -- this Chiefs defense's strength is the secondary, Dave Merritt has everybody in that secondary playing well, and Spags is 9-0 this season.

Swift, however, has been looking exactly like the kind of RB that the Chiefs have struggled with this season. He's slippery, takes more than one tackler, and he runs behind the league's best OL.

The Chiefs defense has given up 21, 9, 10, 20, 20, 8, 17, 24, and 21 points this season. Only the Broncos have had the answer for the Chiefs team, and sure enough, the Broncos were the only team bold enough (and had few enough other options) to just run it straight at us all game.

Personally, I don't think the Eagles are super well coached (they're just more talented), and if they were well coached, they'd run it right at us all game with Swift, Hurts, Penny, and Gainwell. I think that's where you can get us. It's our lone weak spot, and it serves the dual purpose of keeping Mahomes off the field. And not every team can do that, but the Eagles talent is so absurd everywhere that they can.

You are 0-9 this season, however, if you bet against Spags. I just think this is the league's best offense. I expect an output of about 24 points or so.

Can the Chiefs score 24+ points against the Eagles? Ehhhhhhhh
OK, but how are the Eagles going to score against our 2nd ranked D? Also, the Eagles D is middle of the pack. We are the better team overall, plus we get to play them at Arrowhead. Hurts is a system QB that's not going to hurt you (no pun intended) by himself. He relies heavily on AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Swift, and their o-line. If we force him to throw the ball a lot, I like our chances.
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Eagles defense gave up 31 points… TWICE… to Washington with Sam Howell.

Their defense is good but not insurmountable.
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Eagles defense gave up 31 points… TWICE… to Washington with Sam Howell.

Their defense is good but not insurmountable.
Doesn't Washington also have better WRs than us, plus Bienemy?
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Doesn't Washington also have better WRs than us, plus Bienemy?
Yes better WR’s… but Mahomes > Howell should more than compensate for that.
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OK, but how are the Eagles going to score against our 2nd ranked D? Also, the Eagles D is middle of the pack. We are the better team overall, plus we get to play them at Arrowhead. Hurts is a system QB that's not going to hurt you (no pun intended) by himself. He relies heavily on AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Swift, and their o-line. If we force him to throw the ball a lot, I like our chances.
Our defense is outstanding, but its lone weakness is defending the run. Teams just don't go into a game and say to themselves "we are going to lean way in on the run against the Chiefs," because honestly, not many teams are built to do that.

The Broncos had no other option, so they tried it and it kinda worked. It worked enough, we can say that.

The Eagles offense can do that, however. They can put the ball on the ground and scrounge up, say, 24 points, and dare Mahomes and the offense to match when they're losing time of possession 2:1.

And I really, really don't think Hurts is a system QB. I think he's a top 5 talent.

I do agree with your assessment: if the Chiefs force them to get out of the run game, I still think the Eagles can get some success against us, but their odds to win drop dramatically.
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Our defense is outstanding, but its lone weakness is defending the run. Teams just don't go into a game and say to themselves "we are going to lean way in on the run against the Chiefs," because honestly, not many teams are built to do that.

The Broncos had no other option, so they tried it and it kinda worked. It worked enough, we can say that.

The Eagles offense can do that, however. They can put the ball on the ground and scrounge up, say, 24 points, and dare Mahomes and the offense to match when they're losing time of possession 2:1.

And I really, really don't think Hurts is a system QB. I think he's a top 5 talent.

I do agree with your assessment: if the Chiefs force them to get out of the run game, I still think the Eagles can get some success against us, but their odds to win drop dramatically.
Bolton is the key missing against the run, but the Eagles killed Bolton in the SB on QB runs (minus the fumble TD return). Bolton kept being put in the spy role and couldn't catch Hurts. Tranquil is much faster than Bolton so I think that's gonna make things harder.

The Eagles secondary is terrible. Howell 2X, Dak and Cousins shredded them. It's bc their corners are old and on the decline. CGJ leaving was a bigger loss for them as well which is why they traded for Byard.

We'll have our shots in the passing game even with our issues. It's gonna be a good one
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Bolton is the key missing against the run, but the Eagles killed Bolton in the SB on QB runs (minus the fumble TD return). Bolton kept being put in the spy role and couldn't catch Hurts. Tranquil is much faster than Bolton so I think that's gonna make things harder.

The Eagles secondary is terrible. Howell 2X, Dak and Cousins shredded them. It's bc their corners are old and on the decline. CGJ leaving was a bigger loss for them as well which is why they traded for Byard.

We'll have our shots in the passing game even with our issues. It's gonna be a good one
I don't remember Bolton getting crushed? I seem to remember him looking like a boss all game. Nobody has a better answer for the Jalen Hurts play action than Spags. And I think Tranquill gives you everything Bolton gives you, so I don't expect a lot of that to work for the Eagles in the game, so I'm with you there.

All fair on the secondary observations.
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Did you even watch the Dolphins game?
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