Football Media starting to hype up Jared Goff

BoxWine_Stouffers_TubeSock · 10-20-2023, 10:35 AM

I seen this conversation yesterday on Pat Mcafee's show about him being underrated, and today I see the same thing on Undisputed. What say you Planeters? The guy has battled with Mahomes in two pretty epic games so I'll give him props for that. Still not sold on the guy.

staylor26 · 10-20-2023, 10:37 AM

Underrated is definitely fair. He's a solid and legitimate starting NFL QB.

But I've also seen talk of him being an MVP candidate and that's just silly.

**Easy 6** · 10-20-2023, 10:40 AM

He's prime Matt Ryan, which is pretty damn solid... occasional pro bowl type player

DJ's left nut · 10-20-2023, 10:46 AM

Always had him on my list of better deep ball throwers in the league. And he's a solid intermediate passer as well when things are going well.

I wouldn't say he's 'prime' Matt Ryan because prime Matt Ryan won an MVP and deservedly so. But he's a poor man's Ryan in that he can be really good when a plus team is in place around him.

He's a solid throwback thrower. Kirk Cousins may be his best analogue though I think Cousins has demonstrated far greater consistency. He's not going to make much happen off script. He's not terribly mobile or a plus improviser. But if you're looking for someone that can operate an offense well, he's fine.

I wouldn't go much further than that, though.

St. Patty's Fire · 10-20-2023, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Always had him on my list of better deep ball throwers in the league. And he's a solid intermediate passer as well when things are going well.

I wouldn't say he's 'prime' Matt Ryan because prime Matt Ryan won an MVP and deservedly so. But he's a poor man's Ryan in that he can be really good when a plus team is in place around him.

He's a solid throwback thrower. Kirk Cousins may be his best analogue though I think Cousins has demonstrated far greater consistency. He's not going to make much happen off script. He's not terribly mobile or a plus improviser. But if you're looking for someone that can operate an offense well, he's fine.

I wouldn't go much further than that, though.

cousins with better luck sounds about right. Going from McVay to a burgeoning lions team

Eureka · 10-20-2023, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

cousins with better luck sounds about right. Going from McVay to a burgeoning lions team

Luck is def a part of it. Mahomes came to a playoff team, HOF coach, and sat for a year. Not many 1st round picks get that kind of luck.

Also, Goff is apart of that "burgeoning team" since the get go.

ThaVirus · 10-20-2023, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Underrated is definitely fair. He's a solid and legitimate starting NFL QB.

But I've also seen talk of him being an MVP candidate and that's just silly.

I think MVP would go to Tyreek right now. Obviously we’ve got a lot of football left to be played, but..

It’s looking like this is the best season in about 10 years for a non-QB to have a chance of winning.

But, yeah, regarding Goff’s MVP odds, I do understand why they say it. He’s the QB of one of the best teams in the league and they don’t have a ton of star power. Makes sense.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Always had him on my list of better deep ball throwers in the league. And he's a solid intermediate passer as well when things are going well.

I wouldn't say he's 'prime' Matt Ryan because prime Matt Ryan won an MVP and deservedly so. But he's a poor man's Ryan in that he can be really good when a plus team is in place around him.

He's a solid throwback thrower. Kirk Cousins may be his best analogue though I think Cousins has demonstrated far greater consistency. He's not going to make much happen off script. He's not terribly mobile or a plus improviser. But if you're looking for someone that can operate an offense well, he's fine.

I wouldn't go much further than that, though.

Funny. Fitzmagic said the same thing- Goff is a poor man’s Matt Ryan. Goff took some offense to it on a postgame show with Fitz and the boys.. but it’s really not a negative. You could do a lot worse than Matt Ryan.

AdolfOliverBush · 10-20-2023, 10:46 AM

Decent, not great. He's had the good fortune of having abundant weapons for most of his career.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 10-20-2023, 10:48 AM

Yep, talking MVP, however, if these QB's stats continue to be meh, we may see a non QB win MVP this year. Tyreek if he continues at this pace, or a defender...

**Buehler445** · 10-20-2023, 10:52 AM

He's limited but competent. He can be really good if he's gameplanned around his strengths and limit his weaknesses.

Or he can blow ass with insufficient talent or being asked to do something he's not capable of.

Coaching matters kids.

**Lzen** · 10-20-2023, 10:56 AM

I remember telling Lions fans at the home opener "good luck getting to a SB with Alex Smith as your QB". My opinion hasn't changed.

St. Patty's Fire · 10-20-2023, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I remember telling Lions fans at the home opener "good luck getting to a SB with Alex Smith as your QB". My opinion hasn't changed.

i wouldn’t call him alex smith he has plenty of manly picks on his resume

**Easy 6** · 10-20-2023, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I remember telling Lions fans at the home opener "good luck getting to a SB with Alex Smith as your QB". My opinion hasn't changed.

Goff isn't scared shitless of throwing deep, though

Eleazar · 10-20-2023, 11:09 AM

Average

Megatron96 · 10-20-2023, 11:13 AM

In QBR, Goff is the 4th most efficient passer in the league, in Passer Rating he's 3rd. Mahomes is 4th and 9th, respectively.

Basically, there's only a handful of QBs that I'd take over Goff this season.

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