Week 1 - Let's talk about the Lions

[TLO]

Looks like the Chiefs are 6.5 point favorites according to Vegas.

How do you see this one playing out?

[Molitoth]

the Lions are my second fav team, but I'll be rooting my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

the Lions are my second fav team, but I'll be rooting my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

What kind of bundle of sticks ass shit is this?

[chop]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

the Lions are my second fav team, but I'll be rooting my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

How are the Lions your second favorite team? You must live in Michigan or something.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by chop

How are the Lions your second favorite team? You must live in Michigan or something.

lol

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by chop

How are the Lions your second favorite team? You must live in Michigan or something.

No, I'm a KC local.

But as an early teen, Barry Sanders became my favorite player and I found myself watching any Lions game that was televised until he retired.

[Megatron96]

Holy God, thank you.

Forget the spread. KC has been terrible about covering for the last couple years. Plus, the Chiefs only managed 6 double-digit Ws in 2022. Take out those games, and the average margin of victory for KC was about 3 points.

IIrc, DET is going to be missing a few players that would've been possible difference makers, i think due to injury?

of course, we'll be missing CJ. Possibly Toney. Depends on how much he practices next week and how well, I'd imagine.


i think the game will be a lot closer than it should be, due to CJ's absence. Not just because of his pass-rushing either. He's become the best run-stuffer on the DL as well, and DET likes to run the ball. That should narrow the margin somewhat for DET.

And we can't forget that DET won 8 of their last 10 in 2022, in large part due to their defense coming together.


And their offense is credible. Goff can play the position, and while not elite, he can stand and deliver passes anywhere on the field, if not harassed too much. It helps that he has a nice array of WRs to throw to, and a solid RB corps to take some of the heat off of him.


However, it's Week 1, and I expect DET to come out a bit rusty. Chiefs usually come out pretty good in the opener, so I expect the Chief to win, though by 3-4, not 7.

[Delano]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Holy God, thank you.

Forget the spread. KC has been terrible about covering for the last couple years. Plus, the Chiefs only managed 6 double-digit Ws in 2022. Take out those games, and the average margin of victory for KC was about 3 points.

IIrc, DET is going to be missing a few players that would've been possible difference makers, i think due to injury?

of course, we'll be missing CJ. Possibly Toney. Depends on how much he practices next week and how well, I'd imagine.


i think the game will be a lot closer than it should be, due to CJ's absence. Not just because of his pass-rushing either. He's become the best run-stuffer on the DL as well, and DET likes to run the ball. That should narrow the margin somewhat for DET.

And we can't forget that DET won 8 of their last 10 in 2022, in large part due to their defense coming together.


And their offense is credible. Goff can play the position, and while not elite, he can stand and deliver passes anywhere on the field, if not harassed too much. It helps that he has a nice array of WRs and TJ Hockenson (TE1) to throw to, and a solid RB corps to take some of the heat off of him.


However, it's Week 1, and I expect DET to come out a bit rusty. Chiefs usually come out pretty good in the opener, so I expect the Chief to win, though by 3-4, not 7.

You might want to check which roster TJ Hockenson is actually on.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Delano

You might want to check which roster TJ Hockenson is actually on.

Weird. I literally just looked at their roster on ESPN and TJ was on there.

But you're right; I remember TJ going to MIN last year. My bad.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Delano

You might want to check which roster TJ Hockenson is actually on.

How can one spend that much time posting about a team when one isn't even aware that the weapon was traded to the Vikings at the deadline last season? And was the focus for Cousins on the most crucial down of the entire season?

Now, if you want to say Sam Laporta could be every bit the player Hockenson was, I'm on board with that. He's going to be very, very good.

I'm really glad Jameson Williams isn't playing. I hope they haven't figured out how to utilize Gibbs yet. Andy Reid is really, really good when he has time to gameplan for teams like this. Goff can be rattled and Spags is going to have to get awfully creative without Chris Jones being a normal part of the DL.

It could be tough. It's so impossible to know.

[Delano]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

How can one spend that much time posting about a team when one isn't even aware that the weapon was traded to the Vikings at the deadline last season? And was the focus for Cousins on the most crucial down of the entire season?

Now, if you want to say Sam Laporta could be every bit the player Hockenson was, I'm on board with that. He's going to be very, very good.

I'm really glad Jameson Williams isn't playing. I hope they haven't figured out how to utilize Gibbs yet. Andy Reid is really, really good when he has time to gameplan for teams like this. Goff can be rattled and Spags is going to have to get awfully creative without Chris Jones being a normal part of the DL.

It could be tough. It's so impossible to know.

Have to assume it was a brain fog moment… I hope. That was a big trade down the stretch last year.

The Lions have such a good line and it’s going to test Spags’ scheme changes with the front 7 minus Jones. Gibbs and Montgomery could really challenge the Chiefs but you hope they’re very diversely skilled linebackers can lock them down.

I’m really curious if Reid will call a ball control type offense or if they’ll try to put up 35+ a game. Jones missing could impact things in so many ways.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Delano

Have to assume it was a brain fog moment… I hope. That was a big trade down the stretch last year.

!00%. total brainfart. On multiple levels.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Holy God, thank you.

Forget the spread. KC has been terrible about covering for the last couple years. Plus, the Chiefs only managed 6 double-digit Ws in 2022. Take out those games, and the average margin of victory for KC was about 3 points.


And we can't forget that DET won 8 of their last 10 in 2022, in large part due to their defense coming together.

So, we can also remove 6 of those Ws for Detroit?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

So, we can also remove 6 of those Ws for Detroit?

Well, I guess if you want to.

The point is that KC doesn't regularly blow other teams out. Hasn't been a thing for a couple three years now. It happens here and there, but there's no real consistency about it.

And when they don't blow teams out, the games tend to be pretty close. Nothing in between really.

If there was, I'd have a lot more $$$ in my sportsbook acct right now . . .

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Holy God, thank you.

Forget the spread. KC has been terrible about covering for the last couple years. Plus, the Chiefs only managed 6 double-digit Ws in 2022. Take out those games, and the average margin of victory for KC was about 3 points.

IIrc, DET is going to be missing a few players that would've been possible difference makers, i think due to injury?

of course, we'll be missing CJ. Possibly Toney. Depends on how much he practices next week and how well, I'd imagine.


i think the game will be a lot closer than it should be, due to CJ's absence. Not just because of his pass-rushing either. He's become the best run-stuffer on the DL as well, and DET likes to run the ball. That should narrow the margin somewhat for DET.

And we can't forget that DET won 8 of their last 10 in 2022, in large part due to their defense coming together.


And their offense is credible. Goff can play the position, and while not elite, he can stand and deliver passes anywhere on the field, if not harassed too much. It helps that he has a nice array of WRs to throw to, and a solid RB corps to take some of the heat off of him.


However, it's Week 1, and I expect DET to come out a bit rusty. Chiefs usually come out pretty good in the opener, so I expect the Chief to win, though by 3-4, not 7.

Good gods, man, you keep doing this -

Chiefs won "only 6 games by double digits"

You mean like HALF?