Let's talk Defensive Line

Couch-Potato · 10:46 PM

Went through a bunch of threads to identify all of our interests across the defensive line, is this all of them? Who else should be added to the list? Removed from the list? Should anyone be moved up or down on the draft target list?

FA Targets
-DE Yannick Ngakoue, IND
-DT Da’ron Payne, WAS
-DT Poona Ford, SEA
-DE Jadaveon Clowney, CLV
-DT Kalen Saunders, KC
-DT Greg Gains, LAR
-DT Armon Watts, CHI
-DE Ardon Key, JAX
-DE Clean Ferril, LVR
-DE Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, HOU
-DT Chris Wormley, PIT
-DT Maurice Hurst, SF
-DT Andrew Billings, CIN

Vet Trade Targets
-DE Brian Burns, CAR
-DE Chase Young, WAS
-DE Carl Granderson, New Orleans
-DE Za'Darius Smith, Minnesota
-DE D.J. Wonnum, Minnesota

1st Rd Targets
-DT Byran Breese,
-DE Lukas Van Ness, Iowa
-DE BJ Ojulari, LSU
-DE Keion White, Georgia Tech
-DE Derick Hall, Auburn
-DE Isahiah Foskey, ND
-DE Nolan Smith, Georgia
-DL Tuli Tuipulotu, USC
-DE Andre Carter, Army

2nd Rd Targets
-DT Siaki Ika, BU
-DE Will McDonald IV, Iowa St.
-DL Calijah Kancey, Pitt
-DE Zach Harrison, Ohio State
-DE Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State
-DT Mazi Smith, Michigan

3rd Rd Targets
-DT Gervon Dexter, Florida
-NT Keanu Benton, Wisconsin
-DE Adetomiwa Adebawore, Northwestern
-DL Byron Young, Tennessee
-DT Zack Pickens, South Carolina
-DL Mike Morris, Michigan
-DE Dylan Horton, TCU

4th Rd Targets
-DT Byron Young, Alabama
-DE Viliami Fehoko, San Jose St
-DE Thomas Incoom, Central Michigan
-DL Yaya Diabi, Louisville
-DE Habakkuk Baldonado, Pitt

5th-7th Rd Targets
-DE Isaiah McGuire, Missouri
-DE Caleb Murphy, Ferris St
-DE Derek Parish, Houston
-DT Dante Stills, West Virginia
-NT Elijah Simmons, Tennessee

JPH83 · 02-18-2023, 02:29 PM

Okoronkwo is my absolutely no.1 target at DE. Said it elsewhere but he's been rotational but becoming a bigger part of the D every year. Solid against the run, has a pass rush win rate of something like 20%. An ascending guy that shouldn't break the bank. Would love to see him come in.

JPH83 · 02-18-2023, 02:30 PM

Also Chris Wormley, Billings and Maurice Hurst at DT

kccrow · 02-18-2023, 03:37 PM

I'd put ER Dylan Horton as a 3rd round target.
Based on what I'm seeing out there, maybe I'm too high on McGuire. He gets the job done but it seems everyone has him 5th or later.

Couch-Potato · 02-18-2023, 06:12 PM

Adding everyones suggestions to the list

Couch-Potato · 02-20-2023, 06:54 PM

Calijah Kancey is rising up draft boards with Aaron Darnold comparisons, feels very much like a Chris Jones type to me. Why not double down on what's already working on our DL and add Kancey to Jones? Jones already gets the most double teams in the league, why try to free him up with a larger linemen and not use Jones to free up a second killer in the middle to eat up the QB instead?

Chris Meck · 02-20-2023, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Calijah Kancey is rising up draft boards with Aaron Darnold comparisons, feels very much like a Chris Jones type to me. Why not double down on what's already working on our DL and add Kancey to Jones? Jones already gets the most double teams in the league, why try to free him up with a larger linemen and not use Jones to free up a second killer in the middle to eat up the QB instead?

Well, he's 275 pounds.

That's fine on passing downs, but if a team wants to run they'll just plow him over with double teams.

Chieftain · 02-21-2023, 03:23 AM

I am very high on Kancey and would be surprised if he fell to 32. He definitely has an Aaron Donald style of game and similar body type.

ntexascardfan · 02-20-2023, 08:56 PM

I want Moro Ojomo. He's a five year player at Texas, but is still only 21. Lots of physical development to come and can play all over the line.

Titty Meat · 02-20-2023, 11:22 PM

I'm a big fan of Zacch Pickens think he's a 2-3 round kind of guy.

RunKC · 02-20-2023, 11:47 PM

*Assuming that Chris Jones is extended

Mike Danna, Frank Clark (could possibly be cut) and Turk Wharton all in contract years next year. Saunders, Dunlap and Nnadi are FA’s. Herring and Kaindoh are wasting oxygen.

Chiefs need to draft multiple DL this Spring

Dull Tools · 02-21-2023, 05:55 AM

KJ Henry is an intersting pick in the 4th round from Clemson. HEard some good things about him and have heard him compared favourably to Myles Murphy. I think Myles Murphy should also be on this list. He is starting to drop down boards.

Chris Meck · 02-21-2023, 07:20 AM

I really feel like this is a 'must re-stock the trenches' off-season.

Of course, I thought that last off-season too, and Veach zagged.

But surely, DT, DE, and OT are the focus. Right?

Couch-Potato · 02-21-2023, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I really feel like this is a 'must re-stock the trenches' off-season.

Of course, I thought that last off-season too, and Veach zagged.

But surely, DT, DE, and OT are the focus. Right?

I hope so, throw in x1 promising WR in the first 4 rounds and I think that's our draft.

Direckshun · 02-21-2023, 09:33 AM

Kancey only makes sense if we don’t get Jones extended. He probably doesn’t get a lot of snaps his rookie year with Jones and Wharton in front of him.

Kancey is not Aaron Donald, nor is he an Aaron Donald type.

But he’s got the upside to be Tommie Harris, which would be more than enough for a 1st rounder, if you think he can hit that ceiling in three years. Personally I’d spend a 2nd on him, but only if you don’t extend Jones.

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JPH83 Veteran Join Date: Feb 2021 Casino cash: $-179600	Okoronkwo is my absolutely no.1 target at DE. Said it elsewhere but he's been rotational but becoming a bigger part of the D every year. Solid against the run, has a pass rush win rate of something like 20%. An ascending guy that shouldn't break the bank. Would love to see him come in.
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Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $313065	Adding everyones suggestions to the list
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Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $313065	Calijah Kancey is rising up draft boards with Aaron Darnold comparisons, feels very much like a Chris Jones type to me. Why not double down on what's already working on our DL and add Kancey to Jones? Jones already gets the most double teams in the league, why try to free him up with a larger linemen and not use Jones to free up a second killer in the middle to eat up the QB instead?
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2153447	Kancey only makes sense if we don’t get Jones extended. He probably doesn’t get a lot of snaps his rookie year with Jones and Wharton in front of him. Kancey is not Aaron Donald, nor is he an Aaron Donald type. But he’s got the upside to be Tommie Harris, which would be more than enough for a 1st rounder, if you think he can hit that ceiling in three years. Personally I’d spend a 2nd on him, but only if you don’t extend Jones.
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