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Old 11-14-2021, 10:15 PM   Topic Starter
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Don’t let Mahomes being back completely overshadow the defense
3 straight good performances. All under 20 pts.

The young guys are starting to gel and the veterans are playing much better ball.

Everybody calling for Spags to be fired is dumb.
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:19 PM   #2
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I think we've played some pretty poor offenses, but the defense has done exactly what it's supposed to. We can make a Super Bowl with this defense for sure and that's really all we need.
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:21 PM   #3
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I think we've played some pretty poor offenses, but the defense has done exactly what it's supposed to. We can make a Super Bowl with this defense for sure and that's really all we need.
Giants and the Packers without Rodgers? Yea, absolutely.

But the Raiders? Their offense is good enough to say the defense is clearly significantly better than the one from the first several weeks.
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:25 PM   #4
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Giants and the Packers without Rodgers? Yea, absolutely.

But the Raiders? Their offense is good enough to say the defense is clearly significantly better than the one from the first several weeks.
Agree with that. But this is a Raiders team still finding itself without its leading receiver (and only effective deep threat) and head coach. They're not remotely at equilibrium.

Still, the defense dominated today. Looked amazing.
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Old 11-15-2021, 05:46 AM   #5
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Giants and the Packers without Rodgers? Yea, absolutely.

But the Raiders? Their offense is good enough to say the defense is clearly significantly better than the one from the first several weeks.
This is not the Raiders offense that was. It is a shadow of itself now.
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Old 11-15-2021, 08:19 AM   #6
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This is not the Raiders offense that was. It is a shadow of itself now.
Probably so, but this Raider offense would’ve looked top 10 against the Chiefs defense from earlier in the season.
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Old 11-15-2021, 08:42 AM   #7
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Probably so, but this Raider offense would’ve looked top 10 against the Chiefs defense from earlier in the season.
Exactly! I think a lot of people are forgetting how bad they were early in this season. It will be interesting to see how they do next week against the Cowboys. I don't expect them to shut down that offense, but a few stops would be nice.
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:25 PM   #8
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I think we've played some pretty poor offenses, but the defense has done exactly what it's supposed to. We can make a Super Bowl with this defense for sure and that's really all we need.
Yeah, I've thought for weeks the defensive numbers had to average out some... play teams that can score 30ppg, give up 30+ppg. And do that for 5 of 7 weeks, your defense is going to look terrible.

Get closer to the average NFL offense, they suddenly look better.

Of course, they've looked especially bad at times and still looked bad against the Eagles and what not, so not trying to take away from the improvement.... but, it was also bound to happen against all the cries of "historically bad!!!!"
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:32 PM   #9
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Yeah, I've thought for weeks the defensive numbers had to average out some... play teams that can score 30ppg, give up 30+ppg. And do that for 5 of 7 weeks, your defense is going to look terrible.

Get closer to the average NFL offense, they suddenly look better.

Of course, they've looked especially bad at times and still looked bad against the Eagles and what not, so not trying to take away from the improvement.... but, it was also bound to happen against all the cries of "historically bad!!!!"
It's not hard to understand.

Clark was hurt but it took time for him to come back and now he's playing much better.

Gay was hurt and he's our best LBer.

Jones was hurt and is now playing more DT where he's elite.

Ward was hurt and he's much better than Hughes.

Sorenson seeing the field a lot less.

Ingram is an upgrade over Okafor and Danna.

Sneed is finding his groove again.

Individually, meh. But collectively they pretty clearly explain the improvement.
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Defense looked good for a half..then shit their leg until a bit of a lucky turnover. Then looked good.
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Defense looked good for a half..then shit their leg until a bit of a lucky turnover. Then looked good.
There’s nothing lucky about a forced error. Great play by Fenton when Jackson struggled to get control of the ball which slowed him down just long enough.

Also, the defense got ****ed in the 1at half with the ST’s fumble after forcing a punt. If anything, the two plays canceled each other out.
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Defense kicking ass. I have noticed. They are keeping team with out points.
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Raiders without Ruggs is definitely a handicap.

But we put Waller and Jacobs in handcuffs all game long, which isn't an easy task. Very promising stuff from these guys.
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3 straight good performances. All under 20 pts.

The young guys are starting to gel and the veterans are playing much better ball.

Everybody calling for Spags to be fired is dumb.
Shut up bitch.
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