Chiefs This is why Damien Williams is our starting RB

Hog's Gone Fishin · 07-20-2019, 10:58 AM

We only got a small sample size last year of what this guy can do. Remember Jamaal Charles, we didn't know what we really had until he got the opportunity to carry the ball. Damien is going to be a top 5 back in 2019. Mark my words.

There is a play (not on this video) against the Chargers where he took a handoff and took it between I believe the LT and LG for 10 yards so fast I actually thought it was Hill taking the handoff. He put his pads down and nailed Derwin James. James took him down but Damien won the battle. So impressive! I wish clay could find that and Gif it up.

Just watch the way this guy runs. His quickness, his power, his vision, his hands, his pad level at the point of attack. He's a complete back.

Chiefs Kingdom is blessed !

Chiefshrink · 07-20-2019, 11:01 AM

I've been pounding this drum since Hunt was released. The running game has not missed a beat IMHO.

In58men · 07-20-2019, 11:09 AM

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I've been pounding this drum since Hunt was released. The running game has not missed a beat IMHO.

Don’t sleep on Darwin Thompson and Carlos Hyde.

Hyde absolutely loves our offensive system. From what I’ve heard he’s never been this excited with any other team.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 07-20-2019, 11:34 AM

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Don’t sleep on Darwin Thompson and Carlos Hyde.

Hyde absolutely loves our offensive system. From what I’ve heard he’s never been this excited with any other team.

Hyde should be excited. He's going to make bunches of money sitting on the bench.

Mosbonian · 07-20-2019, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men

Don’t sleep on Darwin Thompson and Carlos Hyde.

Hyde absolutely loves our offensive system. From what I’ve heard he’s never been this excited with any other team.

Funny thing is that all the Jags fans are laughing at us for picking up Carlos Hyde....would be funny if he ripped off a 200 yard day against them

Chiefshrink · 07-21-2019, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

Don’t sleep on Darwin Thompson and Carlos Hyde.

Hyde absolutely loves our offensive system. From what I’ve heard he’s never been this excited with any other team.

Oh never ! I see the talent in the RB stable for sure. Everyone will get their share of touches for 2 reasons. 1.Health/Fresh legs 2. D's can't key on one RB because they all bring a different style of play that keeps D's guessing.

Does the other Williams make the team ? That kid has a lot of talent as well and IMHO has the most power out of all the RBs in a short yardage situation outside of Sherm.

Halfcan · 07-20-2019, 11:10 AM

I posted in another thread that I thought he was going to have a huge year. Our running game will be able to pound the ball if defenses are going to play a safety deep all the time so Reek won't burn them. Hopefully, the O line will be a lot better than last year and smash some good running holes for him. Should be some open ground to that second level since teams have to respect our passing game.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 07-20-2019, 09:57 PM

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I posted in another thread that I thought he was going to have a huge year. Our running game will be able to pound the ball if defenses are going to play a safety deep all the time so Reek won't burn them. Hopefully, the O line will be a lot better than last year and smash some good running holes for him. Should be some open ground to that second level since teams have to respect our passing game.

OL should be better. LDT is healthy, Andrew Wylie played good for a rookie, better than good T's, and we may have a good one in the McKenzie kid.

Halfcan · 07-20-2019, 10:51 PM

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OL should be better. LDT is healthy, Andrew Wylie played good for a rookie, better than good T's, and we may have a good one in the McKenzie kid.

I hope so, Mahomes was running for his life last year. Fisher was sketchy at best. They were not physical at all and got manhandled in several games- mainly the first half of the Playoff loss.

Kiimo · 07-20-2019, 11:16 AM

I personally am down on him but only in fantasy because I think Darwin and Hyde are going to contribute a lot and the incredible wide receiver group are going to need to eat.

But yeah. This offense regressing is so unbelievably hilarious.

Watch Mahomes throw 5 tds against Jacksonville week 1 and then search "Mahomes" "regress" "wrong" in twitter that day.

It will be delicious to drink it in.

BWillie · 07-20-2019, 11:19 AM

I'm not as high on him as others. But luckily for us we have the best offensive coach in the league so almost any running back will do. He can make them work. In his entire time at Miami he couldn't muster 4.0 yards per carry. in a four year sample size. That is FRIGHTENING. Let's be honest, it's easy to run in this offense. Defenses prepare to stop Mahomes. Running lanes are open.

We should almost NEVER run the ball. Period. I'm talking 90% of the time pass the ball. There is a great Athletic article about this. Even when they KNOW you are passing, it's STILL way way more effective than running the ball. STOP running the ball unless it's 4th and inches, or the defense is just giving you an easy 10 yard gain.

Halfcan · 07-20-2019, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

I'm not as high on him as others. But luckily for us we have the best offensive coach in the league so almost any running back will do. He can make them work. In his entire time at Miami he couldn't muster 4.0 yards per carry. in a four year sample size. That is FRIGHTENING. Let's be honest, it's easy to run in this offense. Defenses prepare to stop Mahomes. Running lanes are open.

We should almost NEVER run the ball. Period. I'm talking 90% of the time pass the ball. There is a great Athletic article about this. Even when they KNOW you are passing, it's STILL way way more effective than running the ball. STOP running the ball unless it's 4th and inches, or the defense is just giving you an easy 10 yard gain.

Wiliams is actually at 4.0 YPC in his career and ran at 5.1 YPC last year for us. 8.3 career Receiving- so not so Frightening.

So if running lanes are open- why would you not pound the ball and control the clock?

People were not impressed with Priest Holmes before he came here either. Williams is going to be a big weapon for us.

BWillie · 07-20-2019, 11:46 AM

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Wiliams is actually at 4.0 YPC in his career and ran at 5.1 YPC last year for us. 8.3 career Receiving- so not so Frightening.

So if running lanes are open- why would you not pound the ball and control the clock?

People were not impressed with Priest Holmes before he came here either. Williams is going to be a big weapon for us.

Well yeah, he has a 4.0 ypc NOW because he got the benefit of playing in a Patrick Mahomes + Tyreek Hill + Travis Kelce + Andy Reid offense. Any Top 60 running back in the league would have success in such an offense.

To your second point, you don't want to control the clock if you are a superior team. If you are a better team, you want as many possessions as possible. That would be a valid argument if you weren't better than the other team. That is why you see especially in college basketball and college football the inferior team slow the game down all the time. For some reason it works for Virginia (basketball) but that is one of the only anomalies. Slowing the game down and giving PATRICK MAHOMES & FUTURE HOF ANDY REID LESS possessions instead of more allows more luck into the game.

rabblerouser · 07-20-2019, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Well yeah, he has a 4.0 ypc NOW because he got the benefit of playing in a Patrick Mahomes + Tyreek Hill + Travis Kelce + Andy Reid offense. Any Top 60 running back in the league would have success in such an offense.

Okay, so he good then?

Was he a wasted 1st round pick in your eyes? Like Mecole Hardman is a wasted 1st round pick to you?

Hog's Gone Fishin · 07-20-2019, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Well yeah, he has a 4.0 ypc NOW because he got the benefit of playing in a Patrick Mahomes + Tyreek Hill + Travis Kelce + Andy Reid offense. Any Top 60 running back in the league would have success in such an offense.

To your second point, you don't want to control the clock if you are a superior team. If you are a better team, you want as many possessions as possible. That would be a valid argument if you weren't better than the other team. That is why you see especially in college basketball and college football the inferior team slow the game down all the time. For some reason it works for Virginia (basketball) but that is one of the only anomalies. Slowing the game down and giving PATRICK MAHOMES & FUTURE HOF ANDY REID LESS possessions instead of more allows more luck into the game.

I think you're looking at it wrong. He wasn't used correctly in the past. I read someone saying the dolphins liked him for goal line situations. All you have to do is look at the video in the OP and you can see the talent he has. Vision , speed and hands and watch the level he runs at. He has it all. Good coaches game for the talent they have.

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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1409523	This is why Damien Williams is our starting RB We only got a small sample size last year of what this guy can do. Remember Jamaal Charles, we didn't know what we really had until he got the opportunity to carry the ball. Damien is going to be a top 5 back in 2019. Mark my words. There is a play (not on this video) against the Chargers where he took a handoff and took it between I believe the LT and LG for 10 yards so fast I actually thought it was Hill taking the handoff. He put his pads down and nailed Derwin James. James took him down but Damien won the battle. So impressive! I wish clay could find that and Gif it up. Just watch the way this guy runs. His quickness, his power, his vision, his hands, his pad level at the point of attack. He's a complete back. Chiefs Kingdom is blessed !
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Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	I posted in another thread that I thought he was going to have a huge year. Our running game will be able to pound the ball if defenses are going to play a safety deep all the time so Reek won't burn them. Hopefully, the O line will be a lot better than last year and smash some good running holes for him. Should be some open ground to that second level since teams have to respect our passing game.
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07-20-2019, 11:16 AM	#10
Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $2058742	I personally am down on him but only in fantasy because I think Darwin and Hyde are going to contribute a lot and the incredible wide receiver group are going to need to eat. But yeah. This offense regressing is so unbelievably hilarious. Watch Mahomes throw 5 tds against Jacksonville week 1 and then search "Mahomes" "regress" "wrong" in twitter that day. It will be delicious to drink it in.
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07-20-2019, 11:19 AM	#11
BWillie Are you ready to Rumble? Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $-1208759	I'm not as high on him as others. But luckily for us we have the best offensive coach in the league so almost any running back will do. He can make them work. In his entire time at Miami he couldn't muster 4.0 yards per carry. in a four year sample size. That is FRIGHTENING. Let's be honest, it's easy to run in this offense. Defenses prepare to stop Mahomes. Running lanes are open. We should almost NEVER run the ball. Period. I'm talking 90% of the time pass the ball. There is a great Athletic article about this. Even when they KNOW you are passing, it's STILL way way more effective than running the ball. STOP running the ball unless it's 4th and inches, or the defense is just giving you an easy 10 yard gain.
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