Chiefs So why do they want pm2 to be under center

big nasty kcnut · 01-12-2018, 05:13 PM

I think he should be in shotgun if it make him feel comfortable. Plus able to move around the pocket better.

**BigRedChief** · 01-12-2018, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

I think he should be in shotgun if it make him feel comfortable. Plus able to move around the pocket better.

Dude, you have to show different looks to defenses.

In58men · 01-12-2018, 05:21 PM

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Dude, you have to show different looks to defenses.

Wasn’t there some “stat” out there that stated Steve Young & Montana took every snap under center? Just saying

Bewbies · 01-12-2018, 05:23 PM

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Wasn’t there some “stat” out there that stated Steve Young & Montana took every snap under center? Just saying

Is PM2 playing in the 80’s or 90’s? Can we bring Derrick Thomas back while we’re at it?

In58men · 01-12-2018, 05:28 PM

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Is PM2 playing in the 80’s or 90’s? Can we bring Derrick Thomas back while we’re at it?

Like I said cock boy, “just saying”.

There’s other members out there who enjoy fun facts.

WhiteWhale · 01-13-2018, 12:29 AM

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Wasn’t there some “stat” out there that stated Steve Young & Montana took every snap under center? Just saying

Well, Montana HATED playing in the Shotgun. He wouldn't do it.

It's a different era now. QB's are in the shotgun all the time now. It's almost more common than being under center. It might be MORE common at this stage.

Pitt Gorilla · 01-12-2018, 05:16 PM

He can already do both. It’s literally not going to matter.

Toad · 01-12-2018, 05:24 PM

In general, under center gives appearance of either run or pass. Linebackers typically plays the run first, then drops back in coverage.

In shotgun, it's much easier for a linebacker to defend, because there is more time for the running back to reach the line of scrimmage if its is a run.

carcosa · 01-12-2018, 07:19 PM

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He can already do both. It’s literally not going to matter.

Thanks be to you!

hitchief · 01-12-2018, 05:22 PM

He can do anything so don't sweat it.

He's a gunslinger so don't need to fool the D with play action.

Playoffs baby and Arrowhead victory for the fans to boot.

jaa1025 · 01-12-2018, 05:42 PM

This is very overblown.

The Chiefs ran out of the shotgun 72% of the time last year and had the #5 offense in the NFL.

Pittsburgh ran their offense out of shotgun 71% of the time and finished with the #3 offense this year.

Chargers were at 66% in shotgun and finished #4 offensively in the NFL.

Philly was at 71% in shotgun and finished #7 offensively in the NFL.

Only 11 teams ran under center 50% of the time or greater. Most teams ran out of shotgun more than they did under center.

OKchiefs · 01-12-2018, 05:48 PM

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This is very overblown.

The Chiefs ran out of the shotgun 72% of the time last year and had the #5 offense in the NFL.

Pittsburgh ran their offense out of shotgun 71% of the time and finished with the #3 offense this year.

Chargers were at 66% in shotgun and finished #4 offensively in the NFL.

Philly was at 71% in shotgun and finished #7 offensively in the NFL.

Only 11 teams ran under center 50% of the time or greater. Most teams ran out of shotgun more than they did under center.

Running from under center still needs to be an option, particularly in short yardage and goalline situations. Unless you want to let the defense know you're going to run when under center every time you have to be able to pass from under center.

Coogs · 01-12-2018, 05:50 PM

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Running from under center still needs to be an option, particularly in short yardage and goalline situations. Unless you want to let the defense know you're going to run when under center every time you have to be able to pass from under center.

You mean like he did in Denver a few times?

jaa1025 · 01-12-2018, 05:50 PM

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Running from under center still needs to be an option, particularly in short yardage and goalline situations. Unless you want to let the defense know you're going to run when under center every time you have to be able to pass from under center.

Running from shotgun gives you Run Pass Option which the Chiefs love to run. It also opens up things for a QB. Running from center is and always will be an option. Mahomes has shown that he can run plays from under center. It's a complete non issue.

OKchiefs · 01-12-2018, 06:02 PM

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Running from shotgun gives you Run Pass Option which the Chiefs love to run. It also opens up things for a QB. Running from center is and always will be an option. Mahomes has shown that he can run plays from under center. It's a complete non issue.

I don't see how you can say it's a non issue. Nobody said he has to run a majority of plays from center, but it's still something that has to be an option in any offense. There's a reason no NFL team runs exclusively out of the shotgun.

Without the threat of a pass play from under center defenders will always key on the run when under center.

It's still something to monitor. I'm sure Mahomes will pick it up fine, but it's a false assumption to just say it's not an issue and not to worry about it. I can almost guarantee it's been an emphasis in practice since he's been here. Even if he operates out of the shotgun the majority of the time, plays from under center are still going to be a part of the playbook and something he has to learn.

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01-12-2018, 05:42 PM	#11
jaa1025 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10000898	This is very overblown. The Chiefs ran out of the shotgun 72% of the time last year and had the #5 offense in the NFL. Pittsburgh ran their offense out of shotgun 71% of the time and finished with the #3 offense this year. Chargers were at 66% in shotgun and finished #4 offensively in the NFL. Philly was at 71% in shotgun and finished #7 offensively in the NFL. Only 11 teams ran under center 50% of the time or greater. Most teams ran out of shotgun more than they did under center.
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