Chiefs Does anyone know Vrabel's 40 time?

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 07:47 AM

I personally believe that Tamba Hali will be an absolute stud in the 3-4 defense. I think he is similar to Mike Vrabel in that he never gives up on a play. He is very active and gives himself fully to the cause.

I have read that Hali is 'too slow'. Does anyone know what Vrabel's 40 yard dash time was? Or any of his drills? I am just wondering how they stack up to Hali's.

Braincase · 03-02-2009, 07:54 AM

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Mecca · 03-02-2009, 07:54 AM

Tamba Hali gets beat by QB's around the end...if you think he can play OLB in a 3-4 I feel bad for you the guy is a marginal starter in a 4-3 defense let alone a 3-4 defense.

I'm ready to be rid of the guy. 40 time or not Tamba Hali plays slow.

Ralphy Boy · 03-02-2009, 10:38 AM

Here is some draft info on Hali if anyone wants to look at it. They reference him being capable of playing LB in a 3-4.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...yers/4660.html

He was a disappointment last year on defense, but who wasn't? You go from 7.5 sacks in 2007 to 3 in 08 and its natural for people to think you've slipped. Not having Allen on the other side certainly allows offenses to load up the line against your only real pass rusher.

For those who say its time for him to go, get real. That is foolish talk, you don't just get rid of a guy just because of one year, especially not a first round draft pick when you already got rid of the defensive coordinator. Everyone on defense underachieved, you can't make excuses for Dorsey and not for Hali, who has proven more at this point than Dorsey.

EyePod · 03-02-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Tamba Hali gets beat by QB's around the end...if you think he can play OLB in a 3-4 I feel bad for you the guy is a marginal starter in a 4-3 defense let alone a 3-4 defense.

I'm ready to be rid of the guy. 40 time or not Tamba Hali plays slow.

I think he's a great backup. But that's it. Definitely not living up to his potential (or at least where he was drafted...)

LiL stumppy · 03-02-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Tamba Hali gets beat by QB's around the end...if you think he can play OLB in a 3-4 I feel bad for you the guy is a marginal starter in a 4-3 defense let alone a 3-4 defense.

I'm ready to be rid of the guy. 40 time or not Tamba Hali plays slow.

Whether you like him or not, he plays till the whistle unlike many NFL players.

Amnorix · 03-02-2009, 07:58 AM

Wow. The 40 time of a 12 year vet.

Welker's 40 time is pretty slow too. Pats should probably cut him...

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Wow. The 40 time of a 12 year vet.

Welker's 40 time is pretty slow too. Pats should probably cut him...

He's trying to argue Hali is fast enough yadda yadda, I don't know how anyone that has ever watched him play could logically argue that.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He's trying to argue Hali is fast enough yadda yadda, I don't know how anyone that has ever watched him play could logically argue that.

We will get a chance to see this year as Hali will be an OLB in the 3-4.

By the way, I guess the Chiefs saw Sanchez more like I did than like you did.

It is nice to see the Chiefs making smart moves.

Amnorix · 03-02-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He's trying to argue Hali is fast enough yadda yadda, I don't know how anyone that has ever watched him play could logically argue that.

That's nice. There's 40 times in shorts and T-shirts, and then there is playing fast on the field with full pads and guys running around in every direction.

40 times are nice, but they're not useful for evaluating current NFL players, really.

ChiefsOne · 03-02-2009, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

That's nice. There's 40 times in shorts and T-shirts, and then there is playing fast on the field with full pads and guys running around in every direction.

40 times are nice, but they're not useful for evaluating current NFL players, really.

Well then what was his 225 rep?

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Wow. The 40 time of a 12 year vet.

Welker's 40 time is pretty slow too. Pats should probably cut him...

I actually meant coming out of college.

Vrabel was never the fastest guy. He was just a football player.

Amnorix · 03-02-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I actually meant coming out of college.

Vrabel was never the fastest guy. He was just a football player.

Turned out to be an EXTREMELY good football player. 40 times are just a measuring device to try to help assess a player that you're projecting into the NFL from college. They're not very useful for evaluating existing NFL players.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Turned out to be an EXTREMELY good football player. 40 times are just a measuring device to try to help assess a player that you're projecting into the NFL from college. They're not very useful for evaluating existing NFL players.

The point was to compare it to Hali.

keg in kc · 03-02-2009, 08:16 AM

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Ralphy Boy MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Here is some draft info on Hali if anyone wants to look at it. They reference him being capable of playing LB in a 3-4.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...yers/4660.html He was a disappointment last year on defense, but who wasn't? You go from 7.5 sacks in 2007 to 3 in 08 and its natural for people to think you've slipped. Not having Allen on the other side certainly allows offenses to load up the line against your only real pass rusher. For those who say its time for him to go, get real. That is foolish talk, you don't just get rid of a guy just because of one year, especially not a first round draft pick when you already got rid of the defensive coordinator. Everyone on defense underachieved, you can't make excuses for Dorsey and not for Hali, who has proven more at this point than Dorsey.
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