Chiefs will need to adjust and figure this out

[RunKC]

Another OL tweet but it’s interesting. Notice anything the Bills did?

Here are the cutups of the plays where Patrick Mahomes was listed as pressured. #Chiefs #ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/nmJWOrom9T

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) November 19, 2024

A lot of times, including the last play of the game, they had 2 DL on one side of the OL crash hard and bull rush the G and T. They see Mahomes flushing out constantly. They crash the OL and flush Mahomes out the way they want and have a LB spy fly to that zone they force Mahomes to go to so he’s got instant pressure in his face.

This also cuts off half of the field. Chargers did this in week 2 and Mahomes struggled badly against it. Bills copied that from Harbaugh and I expect other teams to do the same.

[Sassy Squatch]

Jesus ****, Pat.

[Mecca]

That is literally that exact same shit the Chargers did to trick him into bailing out of the pocket, he takes the bait every single god damn time.

[King_Chief_Fan]

C'mon Pat...smarten up

[Mecca]

I don't know what the fix is there other than to tell a QB who very blatantly does not trust his OL that he has to trust his OL.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't know what the fix is there other than to tell a QB who very blatantly does not trust his OL that he has to trust his OL.

Some of those are on the OL. Ed Oliver beat the shit out of Trey Smith all night long.

That pass to Hendershot was 5 OL and a RB vs 4 rushers. You can’t lose that badly in those situations.

It’s been a problem all year. Look at the last 3 weeks. Interior pressure has been happening at a high rate as well and that didn’t happen last year.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Some of those are on the OL. Ed Oliver beat the shit out of Trey Smith all night long.

That pass to Hendershot was 5 OL and a RB vs 4 rushers. You can’t lose that badly in those situations.

It’s been a problem all year. Look at the last 3 weeks. Interior pressure has been happening at a high rate as well and that didn’t happen last year.

When they get beat on the interior it's gonna be game over, Wanya is basically a guard playing OT because that's the spot we're in.

If stuff like this continues the only way you can really offset this is to start going to more base personnel like base from 2003. A bunch of 2 TE or 2 RB sets and not sending everyone into routes, handing off a bunch, using the screen game. Occasional PA deep shot, I know that isn't exciting at all but trying to get 5 into every pass pattern may not be wise at the current time.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

When they get beat on the interior it's gonna be game over, Wanya is basically a guard playing OT because that's the spot we're in.

If stuff like this continues the only way you can really offset this is to start going to more base personnel like base from 2003. A bunch of 2 TE or 2 RB sets and not sending everyone into routes, handing off a bunch, using the screen game. Occasional PA deep shot, I know that isn't exciting at all but trying to get 5 into every pass pattern may not be wise at the current time.

I often wonder why they don't start having Pat play half of the time under center and utilize PA etc

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I often wonder why they don't start having Pat play half of the time under center and utilize PA etc

Because they are stubborn and want to run their offense...

I honestly think if they would come out and show a bunch of base under center stuff, run the ball, do screens, 3 step drops, slants etc it would make defenses play us a alot differently.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Some of those are on the OL. Ed Oliver beat the shit out of Trey Smith all night long.

That pass to Hendershot was 5 OL and a RB vs 4 rushers. You can’t lose that badly in those situations.

It’s been a problem all year. Look at the last 3 weeks. Interior pressure has been happening at a high rate as well and that didn’t happen last year.

IMMEDIATELY the first thing I noticed.

Sweet jesus, Trey Smith got WORKED. I mean just mauled. You don't see Chris Jones routinely handle a guy as frequently as Oliver kicked the shit out of Smith.

But yeah, lets keep blaming the OTs and Matt Nagy when the guy we have folks saying we should sign at a 'discount' of only $18 million in AAV is getting treated like a street free agent.

Man - that's just gross.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

IMMEDIATELY the first thing I noticed.

Sweet jesus, Trey Smith got WORKED. I mean just mauled. You don't see Chris Jones routinely handle a guy as frequently as Oliver kicked the shit out of Smith.

But yeah, lets keep blaming the OTs and Matt Nagy when the guy we have folks saying we should sign at a 'discount' of only $18 million in AAV is getting treated like a street free agent.

Man - that's just gross.

It's weird to see a dude regress in his contract year.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

IMMEDIATELY the first thing I noticed.

Sweet jesus, Trey Smith got WORKED. I mean just mauled. You don't see Chris Jones routinely handle a guy as frequently as Oliver kicked the shit out of Smith.

But yeah, lets keep blaming the OTs and Matt Nagy when the guy we have folks saying we should sign at a 'discount' of only $18 million in AAV is getting treated like a street free agent.

Man - that's just gross.

Why are the two mutually exclusive? Matt Nagy is also not all that good.

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

IMMEDIATELY the first thing I noticed.

Sweet jesus, Trey Smith got WORKED. I mean just mauled. You don't see Chris Jones routinely handle a guy as frequently as Oliver kicked the shit out of Smith.

But yeah, lets keep blaming the OTs and Matt Nagy when the guy we have folks saying we should sign at a 'discount' of only $18 million in AAV is getting treated like a street free agent.

Man - that's just gross.

Yup, and there is no way in hell I'm paying Trey 20 million plus after this year. NO thanks. We could get as much out Allegretti as Trey has given us lately.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

All you can do is hope he figures it out.

Maybe it just doesn't happen this year though. There are seasons besides the three-peat season.

[BWillie]

He's scared to take hits and step up into the pocket.