Football Hell, is college football now semi-pro feeder system greased by NIL $$?

**Trivers** · Yesterday, 08:36 PM

What is the hell is going on?

1) University of Nevada QB of 3-0 team quits because he claims he has not been paid $150K. Rumors are that he has better NIL offers for next year from a bigger school if he red shirts.

2) USC def tackle quits after transferring from Georgia because he is not happy with his NIL. Also red shirts.

3) Recently, QB Williams left OU to go to USC because he was promised more NIL and free fingernail polish. (I'm a bitter OU fan.)

4) The University of Tennessee is raising ticket prices to pay for NIL program.

Where is all this headed?

The haves vs the have-nots?

Would you want to be a head coach in all this NIL mess?

Are we going to have a college draft where HS athletes get drafted?

Pitt Gorilla · Yesterday, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Trivers

What is the hell is going on?

1) University of Nevada QB of 3-0 team quits because he claims he has not been paid $150K. Rumors are that he has better NIL offers for next year from a bigger school if he red shirts.

2) USC def tackle quits after transferring from Georgia because he is not happy with his NIL. Also red shirts.

3) Recently, QB Williams left OU to go to USC because he was promised more NIL and free fingernail polish. (I'm a bitter OU fan.)

4) The University of Tennessee is raising ticket prices to pay for NIL program.

Where is all this headed?

The haves vs the have-nots?

Would you want to be a head coach in all this NIL mess?

Are we going to have a college draft where HS athletes get drafted?

No.

tredadda · Yesterday, 08:44 PM

I am torn on NIL. In some ways I am in support of it as players should profit off their name (because schools definitely were). In other ways I am against it for the reasons you mentioned above.

MIAdragon · Today, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

I am torn on NIL. In some ways I am in support of it as players should profit off their name (because schools definitely were). In other ways I am against it for the reasons you mentioned above.

Thought the free education was payment?

Garcia Bronco · Today, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Thought the free education was payment?

And in many cases room and board.

**notorious** · Today, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

And in many cases room and board.

I got to visit several programs when I flew around a QB recruit 15-20 years ago.

They had very nice "dorms", and all the big programs had several chefs on site 24 hours a day including Christmas.

I remember the guy showing us around saying "If you want a porterhouse on Easter morning at 3am, they will make it".

That was a mid-tier SEC school.....

Garcia Bronco · Today, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

I got to visit several programs when I flew around a QB recruit 15-20 years ago.

They had very nice "dorms", and all the big programs had several chefs on site 24 hours a day including Christmas.

I remember the guy showing us around saying "If you want a porterhouse on Easter morning at 3am, they will make it".

That was a mid-tier SEC school.....

So back in '93 during my freshman year a bunch of my high school football team was at my college. The athletes had their own dorm with a dining hall attached to it that was open 24/7. And only the athletes could eat there.

KCJake · Today, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

I am torn on NIL. In some ways I am in support of it as players should profit off their name (because schools definitely were). In other ways I am against it for the reasons you mentioned above.

It sounded like a reasonable idea at the time. But it's setting up to end pretty badly

smithandrew051 · Yesterday, 08:57 PM

I predict players from the lower ranked Playoff teams will eventually start sitting out.

A lot of those teams won’t actually have a chance of winning it all. Those guys may only hurt their draft stock by playing as well as risking injury.

Dayze · Yesterday, 09:13 PM

It’ll probably just result in overall shitty college football over time
Constant turnover

**HemiEd** · Today, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

It’ll probably just result in overall shitty college football over time
Constant turnover

It already has in my opinion. The Athletes move around so much it has ruined the games for me. School loyalty used to be part of it.
I used to be really into College BB, not so much anymore.

Ocotillo · Yesterday, 09:32 PM

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htismaqe · Yesterday, 09:34 PM

The whole "have and have not" argument is interesting. With TV deals and other forms of revenue sharing some of these, what are now, tier 2 schools are going to have shit tons of money to spend. I guess it all comes down to what they're willing to use as a source of subsidies. I think it may actually disrupt the current dominance/dynasty hierarchy.

Ocotillo · Yesterday, 09:40 PM

I think most people are in agreement the players should be compensated given the money in the sport.

Here are my issues:

1. Can the payments be transparent? Why all the money under the table? If Florida wants to pay a QB $15 million, why can't it be on the books and visible to the world?

2. Can transfers be limited again? Maybe limit it to a player gets one transfer and can play immediately. You transfer a second time and you have to sit out a year if you're not a grad transfer.

3. Can we get rid of all the tampering? Nobody should be communicating with anybody that's not a part of their program and is not in the transfer portal.

4. The business side should be limited to a timeframe. Nobody should be shaking down a school for more money once practice starts in August.

**notorious** · Today, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo

I think most people are in agreement the players should be compensated given the money in the sport.

Here are my issues:

1. Can the payments be transparent? Why all the money under the table? If Florida wants to pay a QB $15 million, why can't it be on the books and visible to the world?

2. Can transfers be limited again? Maybe limit it to a player gets one transfer and can play immediately. You transfer a second time and you have to sit out a year if you're not a grad transfer.

3. Can we get rid of all the tampering? Nobody should be communicating with anybody that's not a part of their program and is not in the transfer portal.

4. The business side should be limited to a timeframe. Nobody should be shaking down a school for more money once practice starts in August.

With taxes involved you bet the info will be out there.

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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10189900	The whole "have and have not" argument is interesting. With TV deals and other forms of revenue sharing some of these, what are now, tier 2 schools are going to have shit tons of money to spend. I guess it all comes down to what they're willing to use as a source of subsidies. I think it may actually disrupt the current dominance/dynasty hierarchy.
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Ocotillo Veteran Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Red state Casino cash: $-10000	I think most people are in agreement the players should be compensated given the money in the sport. Here are my issues: 1. Can the payments be transparent? Why all the money under the table? If Florida wants to pay a QB $15 million, why can't it be on the books and visible to the world? 2. Can transfers be limited again? Maybe limit it to a player gets one transfer and can play immediately. You transfer a second time and you have to sit out a year if you're not a grad transfer. 3. Can we get rid of all the tampering? Nobody should be communicating with anybody that's not a part of their program and is not in the transfer portal. 4. The business side should be limited to a timeframe. Nobody should be shaking down a school for more money once practice starts in August.
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