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Old 06-24-2024, 05:30 PM   Topic Starter
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Enforcing the hip-drop tackle could increase automatic first-down penalties by 25.1% and add 3,000 penalty yards, a 35.7% increase from 2023
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Old 06-24-2024, 05:32 PM   #2
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Enforcing the hip-drop tackle could increase automatic first-down penalties by 25.1% and add 3,000 penalty yards, a 35.7% increase from 2023
Great. Refs in more control.

Who could possibly want this rule?
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Old 06-25-2024, 10:20 PM   #6
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If (and for now it’s an “if”) it cuts down on season ending injuries it’s worth it.

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Old 06-25-2024, 09:01 AM   #8
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If (and for now it’s an “if”) it cuts down on season ending injuries it’s worth it.

Yeah i said it.
It's gonna be a savage transition for a season, but ultimately teams will adjust and we won't notice anything on the field once they figure it out.

But for a year, I'm gonna loathe this. It's going to decide ballgames. But to the folks that think it's going to be hard to enforce - man, I don't think so. It's so damn obvious when we see it.

Hopefully the officials aren't too crazy about interpretation and if not, the transition will be painful but doable.
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It's gonna be a savage transition for a season, but ultimately teams will adjust and we won't notice anything on the field once they figure it out.

But for a year, I'm gonna loathe this. It's going to decide ballgames. But to the folks that think it's going to be hard to enforce - man, I don't think so. It's so damn obvious when we see it.

Hopefully the officials aren't too crazy about interpretation and if not, the transition will be painful but doable.
I don’t see why it has to be a savage transition. That tackle is not a natural way to tackle. The tackler has to go out of his way. There is intention when making that tackle. One can only assume the tackler is aware of the high injury rate associated with it. There is no doubt in my mind that Arden Key was trying to injure Mahomes. The game ain’t gonna miss that tackle at all. It’s not like it comes naturally.
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I don’t see why it has to be a savage transition. That tackle is not a natural way to tackle. The tackler has to go out of his way. There is intention when making that tackle. One can only assume the tackler is aware of the high injury rate associated with it. There is no doubt in my mind that Arden Key was trying to injure Mahomes. The game ain’t gonna miss that tackle at all. It’s not like it comes naturally.
Coaches have been teaching it. The 'Hawk Tackle' was an answer to the penalties for going above the shoulder. So a lot of guys have been doing it for 8-10 years now; they're gonna have to 'unlearn' it.

I think you'll see it most with LBs and DBs because they try to use their speed advantage to create momentum to finish tackles against larger players. By and large, DL will be able to stop pretty much immediately; as you noted, it's not a natural motion, especially for a big guy who isn't in full flight.

but for a dude on the run towards the sidelines who sees someone getting near the sticks, that's going to be something he's been doing to stop their momentum (instead of the 'his stick' flying dive tackle) for a few years now. It's going to take some time to get those guys to stop doing that.
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Coaches have been teaching it. The 'Hawk Tackle' was an answer to the penalties for going above the shoulder. So a lot of guys have been doing it for 8-10 years now; they're gonna have to 'unlearn' it.

I think you'll see it most with LBs and DBs because they try to use their speed advantage to create momentum to finish tackles against larger players. By and large, DL will be able to stop pretty much immediately; as you noted, it's not a natural motion, especially for a big guy who isn't in full flight.

but for a dude on the run towards the sidelines who sees someone getting near the sticks, that's going to be something he's been doing to stop their momentum (instead of the 'his stick' flying dive tackle) for a few years now. It's going to take some time to get those guys to stop doing that.
Good point that coaches have been teaching it.
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Why don't you just go and "put your flags on" and play in your own backyard.
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Y’all are goofy. You talk about how backups are part of the game but millions of y’all tune the **** out when guys like Aaron rodgers get hurt. The best players on the field is way better football than players being allowed to tackle and hit more freely. Maybe you should just watch the old xfl where players could do whatever the **** they want, since the quality of players on the field doesn’t have any impact on ratings.
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Over/under on the number of games before KC benefits from this and someone uses this penalty as additional evidence that the refs/NFL rigged it for the Chiefs.
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