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Old 02-25-2025, 08:33 AM   Topic Starter
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Veach trying to keep Trey Smith- Update: Franchise Tagged

Have said many times that I feared this would happen


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Old 02-25-2025, 08:34 AM   #2
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FWIW I don’t like Dianna. Ya’ll hate on Nate Taylor for his info but this dumb bitch guaranteed we were getting a 1st for Sneed last year.

We’ll see
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Old 02-25-2025, 09:00 AM   #3
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FWIW I don’t like Dianna. ....
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Old 02-25-2025, 09:31 AM   #4
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FWIW I don’t like Dianna. Ya’ll hate on Nate Taylor for his info but this dumb bitch guaranteed we were getting a 1st for Sneed last year.

We’ll see
She’s the equivalent of those rumor aggregators… almost everything she reports are rumors she hears from other sources, regardless of credibility.
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Old 02-25-2025, 10:23 AM   #5
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FWIW I don’t like Dianna. Ya’ll hate on Nate Taylor for his info but this dumb bitch guaranteed we were getting a 1st for Sneed last year.

We’ll see
Nate always talks about her..
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Old 02-25-2025, 08:34 AM   #6
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Dianna is always wrong about us. So.... yeah IDK.
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Old 02-25-2025, 08:39 AM   #7
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Dianna is always wrong about us. So.... yeah IDK.
Said this before but Verderame has reported several times, including right before the season opener last year, that Veach was trying his best to get a deal done with Trey last summer and they were fairly close.

Made it seem like Trey wanted to hold off bc he could get more money (shocker he did).

Also mentioned that they tried to speak to Bolton and he didn’t want to do a deal.
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Old 02-25-2025, 08:36 AM   #8
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And what about Joe then?

The only thing that kinda raised my antenna all along on this being a possibility is Verderame has taken the stance they need to keep Smith at all costs, and as plugged in as he is, makes me wonder if he also heard that was their intent.
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Old 02-25-2025, 08:39 AM   #9
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And what about Joe then?
I assume that Joe is gone after next year anyway...
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Old 02-25-2025, 08:41 AM   #10
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The most concerning thing about this is IMO it backs us into a corner re: LT

Basically have to draft the player unless it's DJ Humphries and you can't have any assurances about a draft when you're slotted at 31.
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Old 02-25-2025, 08:47 AM   #11
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The most concerning thing about this is IMO it backs us into a corner re: LT

Basically have to draft the player unless it's DJ Humphries and you can't have any assurances about a draft when you're slotted at 31.
This is the last year of Thuney’s deal and they can easily cut Jawaan after 2025 for $20 million in cap and only $7 million in dead money.

Signing a LT in FA wouldn’t be a problem
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This is the last year of Thuney’s deal and they can easily cut Jawaan after 2025 for $20 million in cap and only $7 million in dead money.

Signing a LT in FA wouldn’t be a problem
Joe can't come back on a $27M hit, so something's gonna have to give there if we are signing two other starters on the OL
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Old 02-25-2025, 08:53 AM   #13
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Joe can't come back on a $27M hit, so something's gonna have to give there if we are signing two other starters on the OL
Again they are in a great place with the cap. They can absolutely afford a high priced FA if they want to. Most of us preferred paying a guy like Chase Young instead of Trey but this still applies.

If Trey is paid, it’s gonna be a 4 or 5 year deal that is backloaded and his cap hit will be small in the first year.

Thuney is in the final year of his deal. If they don’t touch it, he is completely off the books after 2025 with no dead money. That alone would shift $26 million we were paying to Trey in 2026-2028.

Jawaan is in his last year in 2025. We will cut him this time next year and save $20 million to only 1 year of dead cap of $7 million.

They can get rid of both Thuney and Jawaan’s huge deals by the time Trey really gets paid starting in 2026.
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Old 02-25-2025, 08:52 AM   #15
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The most concerning thing about this is IMO it backs us into a corner re: LT

Basically have to draft the player unless it's DJ Humphries and you can't have any assurances about a draft when you're slotted at 31.

Depends if we are giving a short term deal to a LT.

If we sign Trey for 4-5 years, that cap money is low now and will inflate in future years.

That would free up a LT contract for 2-3 years

Not to mention that patricks contract is oddly frontloaded so that the money can move around. He is due 60+ million each of the next three years against the cap, but that falls to 32m in 2028, 34m in 2029 then its in the 40m range after that. They have alot of stuff they could do to be rich in cap space this year if clark wants to write big old checks.


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