Let’s talk Free Agency

[RunKC]

A little premature to put this on the front page before March. Who all do you guys like for us? What players do you think should go after?

Any value guys you prefer?

[Palangi]

I think a guy like Payton Turner would be a Spaggs DE(6’6” 275). And I don’t think he would cost much. Maybe 5 or 6 million a year. And I think there is still some potential there. He’s only 25.

https://youtu.be/D82ykrYqVaQ?si=DG2aHN7_yg777WwR


I would also really like us to sign Bobby Brown, the DT from the Rams. Only 24 years old. But at 6’4” 320 he is a true run stuffer that has some juice in the pass rush.

https://youtu.be/VyVSsUeE570?si=DAueJ6EPLMxwFikw

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by Palangi

I think a guy like Payton Turner would be a Spaggs DE(6’6” 275). And I don’t think he would cost much. Maybe 5 or 6 million a year. And I think there is still some potential there. He’s only 25.

https://youtu.be/D82ykrYqVaQ?si=DG2aHN7_yg777WwR


I would also really like us to sign Bobby Brown, the DT from the Rams. Only 24 years old. But at 6’4” 320 he is a true run stuffer that has some juice in the pass rush.

https://youtu.be/VyVSsUeE570?si=DAueJ6EPLMxwFikw

Would rather take either of them vs watch Veach waste yet another pick on the DL. Wonder how losing Borgonzi is gonna affect our scouting. He was supposedly Veach’s right hand man, and “secret weapon”.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Palangi

I think a guy like Payton Turner would be a Spaggs DE(6’6” 275). And I don’t think he would cost much. Maybe 5 or 6 million a year. And I think there is still some potential there. He’s only 25.

https://youtu.be/D82ykrYqVaQ?si=DG2aHN7_yg777WwR


I would also really like us to sign Bobby Brown, the DT from the Rams. Only 24 years old. But at 6’4” 320 he is a true run stuffer that has some juice in the pass rush.

https://youtu.be/VyVSsUeE570?si=DAueJ6EPLMxwFikw

I really like Bobby Brown but Turner is a whole other level of NO.

[Dunerdr]

Thornhill just got released. Anyone interested? I didn't watch that many Cleveland games but he looked decent when we played them. Not sure hell ever get back to his rookie athleticism. And not sure he can be a Reid replacement mentally.

[Dunerdr]

NFL Trade rumors top 100.
1.Tee Higgins
2.Sam Darnold
3.Trey smith
4.Chris Godwin
5. Jevon Holland S
6. DJ Reed Cb
7.Zach Baun LB
8.Hollywood Brown WR
9.Alaric Jackson T
10.Ronnie Stanley LT
11.Josh Sweat Edge
12.paulson Adeebo CB
13. Drew Dalmann C
14. Tevin Jenkins G
15. Chase Young Edge
16. Russel Wilson
17. Aaron Rodgers
18. Amari Cooper WR
19. Stefon Diggs WR
20.Hasaan Redick. Edge.
21.Kahlil Mack Edge
22. DeMarcus Lawrence Edge
23.Justin Fields QB
24.Milton Williams DL
25.Osa Odighizuwa DL
26.Byron Murphy CB
27.Asante Samuel CB
28.poona Ford DL
29.Cam Robinson OT
30.Kristian Fulton CB
31.Carlton Davis cb
32. Mike Hughes CB
33.Michael Jackson CB
34.Charvarious Ward (criminally low imo)
35. Najee Harris rb
36.Rasul Douglas cb
37.Aaron Jones rB
38. Bobby Wagner lb
39. DeAndre Hopkins wr
40. Keenan Allen wr
41.Calais Cambell DL
42Eric Kendricks LB
43. Kevin Zeitler G
44. Malcom Koonce Edge
45.Azeez Ojulari Edge
46. Barton Browning Edge
47. Julian Blackmon S
48. Camryn Bynum S
49.Justin Reid S
50. Jeremy Chinn S
51. Taloana S
52. mekhi Bekton OT/G
53. James Daniels G
54. Will Fries G
55. Jk Dobbins RB
56. Javonte Williams RB
57. Rico Dowdle RB
58. Jamien Sherwood Lb
59. Ernest Jones LB
60. Dre Greenlaw LB
61. Tyrell Dodson LB
62. Robert Spillaine LB
63. Levi Onwuzurike dl
64. Chauncey Gholston Dl
65. Brandon Stephens CB
66. Jameis Winston QB
67. MMike Hilton CB
68 Johnathan Jones CB



Ill update as I get time with the rest.

[Chris Meck]

I don't think we'll be shopping in the first wave at all. It'll be bargain shopping. The only guy I can see just targeting would be Jackson. Other than that, it'll be trying to keep our guys and looking to the draft.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I don't think we'll be shopping in the first wave at all. It'll be bargain shopping. The only guy I can see just targeting would be Jackson. Other than that, it'll be trying to keep our guys and looking to the draft.

I think if they strike early it'll be at Chase Young.

He opens up a lot of options long-term. Now it's also possible that he just doesn't have the motor we want and won't look at him at all.

But if you get Young, you aren't in quite as dire a situation with Karlaftis and can even take him to the 5th year option year if you need to. It's not ideal, but it opens up alternatives. That has some value in its own right.

But I do think we'll be shopping for a DE.

I could see CB being something of a '2nd wave' target for us and perhaps WR.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think if they strike early it'll be at Chase Young.

He opens up a lot of options long-term. Now it's also possible that he just doesn't have the motor we want and won't look at him at all.

But if you get Young, you aren't in quite as dire a situation with Karlaftis and can even take him to the 5th year option year if you need to. It's not ideal, but it opens up alternatives. That has some value in its own right.

But I do think we'll be shopping for a DE.

I could see CB being something of a '2nd wave' target for us and perhaps WR.

IF they're out on Omenihu, I could agree with that.

[kccrow]

Here's my long list but knowing we won't sign many...

QB: Cooper Rush (DAL), Jameis Winston (CLE), Carson Wentz (KC)
RB: Elijah Mitchell (SF), Ty Johnson (BUF), Jalen Warren (PIT, RFA), Javonte Williams (DEN), Samaje Perine (KC), Kareem Hunt (KC)
TE: Austin Hooper (NE), Tyler Conklin (NYJ), Mike Gesicki (CIN)
WR: Marquise Brown (KC), Elijah Moore (CLE), Josh Palmer (LAC), Dyami Brown (WAS), Rondale Moore (ATL), Darius Slayton (NYG)
LT: Alaric Jackson (LAR), Jaylon Moore (SF), D.J. Humphries (KC)
RG: Robert Hainsey (TB), Will Hernandez (ARI)
DT: Tershawn Wharton (KC), Roy Lopez (ARI), Benito Jones (MIA), Javon Kinlaw (NYJ), Greg Gaines (TB), B.J. Hill (CIN), Bobby Brown III (LAR), Tedarrell Slaton (GB)
DE: Josh Sweat (PHI), Charles Omenihu (KC), Chase Young (NO), Chauncey Golston (DAL), Dayo Odeyingbo (IND), Joseph Ossai (CIN), Patrick Jones II (MIN)
LB: Jamien Sherwood (NYJ), Nick Bolton (KC), Devin Bush (CLE), Tyrel Dodson (MIA), Dre Greenlaw (SF)
CB: Michael Jackson Sr (CAR), Byron Murphy (MIN), Paulson Adebo (NO), Asante Samuel Jr (LAC)
SS: Richie Grant (ATL), Ashtyn Davis (NYJ)
ST: James Winchester (KC), Matt Araiza (KC)

Guys I probably most want...

1. Alaric Jackson, LT - Easily the best option on the open market and opens up the draft.
2. Josh Sweat, DE - I really like Sweat's ability to bring the heat and he's a solid run defender too. He's far more consistent as a player than Chase Young. Some might argue he's no better than Karlaftis and while that may be true, having two Karlaftis' is better than one.
3. Jamien Sherwood, LB - I so desperately want more athleticism at the second level but this won't happen if the Chiefs stick with Bolton.
4. Marquise Brown, WR - I think there was a real connection with Mahomes and we didn't get to see it evolve. He fits a true need as well.
5. Tershawn Wharton, DT - Wharton has really blossomed into a good player that I think we need to retain. He's still young enough to give you 5 quality seasons.
6. Elijah Mitchell, RB - I know he hasn't been the epitome of health but he's electric and can be a good 3rd down back.
7. Robert Hainsey, IOL - Hainsey can play either guard spot or center, is cerebral and athletic. He'll probably have a mid-tier price but can play quality ball.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Here's my long list but knowing we won't sign many...

QB: Cooper Rush (DAL), Jameis Winston (CLE), Carson Wentz (KC)
RB: Elijah Mitchell (SF), Ty Johnson (BUF), Jalen Warren (PIT, RFA), Javonte Williams (DEN), Samaje Perine (KC), Kareem Hunt (KC)
TE: Austin Hooper (NE), Tyler Conklin (NYJ), Mike Gesicki (CIN)
WR: Marquise Brown (KC), Elijah Moore (CLE), Josh Palmer (LAC), Dyami Brown (WAS), Rondale Moore (ATL), Darius Slayton (NYG)
LT: Alaric Jackson (LAR), Jaylon Moore (SF), D.J. Humphries (KC)
RG: Robert Hainsey (TB), Will Hernandez (ARI)
DT: Tershawn Wharton (KC), Roy Lopez (ARI), Benito Jones (MIA), Javon Kinlaw (NYJ), Greg Gaines (TB), B.J. Hill (CIN), Bobby Brown III (LAR), Tedarrell Slaton (GB)
DE: Josh Sweat (PHI), Charles Omenihu (KC), Chase Young (NO), Chauncey Golston (DAL), Dayo Odeyingbo (IND), Joseph Ossai (CIN), Patrick Jones II (MIN)
LB: Jamien Sherwood (NYJ), Nick Bolton (KC), Devin Bush (CLE), Tyrel Dodson (MIA), Dre Greenlaw (SF)
CB: Michael Jackson Sr (CAR), Byron Murphy (MIN), Paulson Adebo (NO), Asante Samuel Jr (LAC)
SS: Richie Grant (ATL), Ashtyn Davis (NYJ)
ST: James Winchester (KC), Matt Araiza (KC)

Guys I probably most want...

1. Alaric Jackson, LT - Easily the best option on the open market and opens up the draft.
2. Josh Sweat, DE - I really like Sweat's ability to bring the heat and he's a solid run defender too. He's far more consistent as a player than Chase Young. Some might argue he's no better than Karlaftis and while that may be true, having two Karlaftis' is better than one.
3. Jamien Sherwood, LB - I so desperately want more athleticism at the second level but this won't happen if the Chiefs stick with Bolton.
4. Marquise Brown, WR - I think there was a real connection with Mahomes and we didn't get to see it evolve. He fits a true need as well.
5. Tershawn Wharton, DT - Wharton has really blossomed into a good player that I think we need to retain. He's still young enough to give you 5 quality seasons.
6. Elijah Mitchell, RB - I know he hasn't been the epitome of health but he's electric and can be a good 3rd down back.
7. Robert Hainsey, IOL - Hainsey can play either guard spot or center, is cerebral and athletic. He'll probably have a mid-tier price but can play quality ball.

Veach chipping away at the list. Keep em coming man

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Veach chipping away at the list. Keep em coming man

He apparently stopped trying for himself and just started following you around on here.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Veach chipping away at the list. Keep em coming man

Mighty impressive Crow! Where do you reckon they'll prioritise next, and who? Got to think a DE is a priority. I'd hope a DT is as well but maybe they leave it to the draft. Safety?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by JPH83

Mighty impressive Crow! Where do you reckon they'll prioritise next, and who? Got to think a DE is a priority. I'd hope a DT is as well but maybe they leave it to the draft. Safety?

I agree with you on DL and S. I think it'll be pretty quiet at least until Wednesday though. They need to get under the cap and if they don't get something done with Trey Smith then we won't see anything big.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I agree with you on DL and S. I think it'll be pretty quiet at least until Wednesday though. They need to get under the cap and if they don't get something done with Trey Smith then we won't see anything big.

Yeah I think you're right. On a side note, just wanted to say I appreciate the work you put into the draft forum. As someone who doesn't know half the players, it's incredibly helpful.

For me, the glaring needs are as follows:

DE - Our room, as it stands, is pretty bad imo, and probably our weakest position. Unfortunately, FA looks very thin now, so we may be having to risk solely building through the draft. I'd consider bringing Omenihu back, up to an absolute max of $8m and probably a single "prove it" year. The issue I have is, I don't think he will prove it. I'm kinda done with the incessant focus on "flexibility" and I'm fairly convinced it results in lots of players who do nothing particularly well. I don't think Omenihu frees up others...but, meh, he's OK, he knows the system etc. After that, who's left? Maybe Dante Fowler, who might be cheap. Z'Adarius Smith will surely cost too much. Think we're rolling the dice in the draft and hoping.

DT - The next worst room, and again it's slim pickings in FA now. I still have some vague hope that Lovett can turn into a functional NT, but it seems unwise to assume. There's Onwuzurike, who'd be great, but I'd presume costs too much. Calais Campbell is ancient but would still be an upgrade, but again, probably still a little too much. Outside of that I'd possibly go for someone like Ta'Quon Graham, who should be cheap. I'm assuming it's just dealt with through the draft, lots of options.

RB - Would expect this to be dealt with through the draft too, but I'd happily have Hunt back on a min. deal for short-yardage and 3rd downs.

Safety - We know Hicks will be used more, and possibly Connor assuming McDuffie is freed up to return to the slot more. But there's a lack of vet savvy and coverage ability. I don't think there's anyone left in FA. I wouldn't hate Blackmon, but I don't think we can prioritise paying him. Thornhill back on a min. deal? Maybe. Guess it'll be through the draft again.

Outside of that I can't see any move to cover other positions aside from a backup QB, maybe a bottom of the roster WR? We certainly need a WR4